KA M4A1 GBBR - Maximaizing Recoil

ofirn2008 · April 21st, 2011, 14:32

Hi guys,

I have King Arms COLT M4A1 GBBR.

My question is what should i do to maximaize the recoil on this rifle?

Do I need hard spring or soft spring?

The Bolt carrier with loading muzzle weight is 230 gram. (without muzzle 188).
The Buffer weight is 81 gram.

First, In the near future I'm gonna buy th super recoil buffer from RA-TECH I think it's the best for hard recoil.

Seconde, I'm gonna buy ELEMENT Steel Bolt carrier.

What do you say guys?

Thank you and happy holiday. (passover).

The Chad · April 21st, 2011, 20:25

That should do it.

Conker · April 21st, 2011, 20:28

Element is great for the price as far as externals go... but I'd stick with RA-Tech and similar higher brands for anything internal.

kullwarrior · April 21st, 2011, 20:39

Beside using that consider...

Real Steel Buffer
Real steel Recoil Spring (you might have to shorten a bit to reduce the tension)
Put spacer so the gun is very close to not locking back.

The Chad · April 21st, 2011, 21:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by kullwarrior

Beside using that consider...

Real Steel Buffer
Real steel Recoil Spring (you might have to shorten a bit to reduce the tension)
Put spacer so the gun is very close to not locking back.

Even better.

kullwarrior · April 21st, 2011, 23:45

Just note what I said above will dramatic increase the wear of the internal.

Gunny_McSmith · April 21st, 2011, 23:52

+ cooldown... but if you dont shoot in full auto you should be fine....

Eeyore · April 22nd, 2011, 00:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunny_McSmith

...but if you dont shoot in full auto you should be fine....

but if you don't cum you should be fine...

What the hells the point then?

ofirn2008 · April 22nd, 2011, 04:20

Thank you guys for your comments.
RA-TECH Is to expensive for me. Steel Bolt carier cost 140 USD. ELEMENT's cost 64 USD.
I never shoot on Auto mode its useless.
About the spacer I already got one so it very close to not catch the bolt. I think if i will change the spacer from sponge to metal the absorption will be less - more felt recoil.
Changing to real spring will cause to damage and failures in the blowback system. It's just too strong and if you shorting it the base will be unsimetric.

Gunny_McSmith · April 22nd, 2011, 09:54

I suggest reading on the GasGun Info forum... there's lots of GBB experts from around the world on there.... and most of them ahve tried every single chinese parts and reviewed them on there!

ofirn2008 · April 22nd, 2011, 14:03

Thank you very much.

turok_t · April 22nd, 2011, 22:40

If only using a a heavier buffer (5 oz) would there still be dramatic wear to the internals?

ofirn2008 · April 29th, 2011, 06:05

I just finished making my new buffer.
Previous weight was 80 gram.
Currently weight 200 gram.

The recoil is now very hard and the kick is amaizing.

I made the buffer from old flash hider of AK-47 SPETSNAZ, also I took the weight from the old buffer.

I was suprised how well the new buffer sits in the tube.

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April 21st, 2011, 14:32	#1
ofirn2008 Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Israel	KA M4A1 GBBR - Maximaizing Recoil Hi guys, I have King Arms COLT M4A1 GBBR. My question is what should i do to maximaize the recoil on this rifle? Do I need hard spring or soft spring? The Bolt carrier with loading muzzle weight is 230 gram. (without muzzle 188). The Buffer weight is 81 gram. First, In the near future I'm gonna buy th super recoil buffer from RA-TECH I think it's the best for hard recoil. Seconde, I'm gonna buy ELEMENT Steel Bolt carrier. What do you say guys? Thank you and happy holiday. (passover).

April 21st, 2011, 20:28	#3
Conker Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada / Ireland / USA	Element is great for the price as far as externals go... but I'd stick with RA-Tech and similar higher brands for anything internal. __________________ WTS: King Arms/Madbull Mk18 Mod1 - VFC Mk17 SCAR-H midcap mags, FDE - VFC Mk17 SCAR-H + PWS rail, FDE WTB/WTT: CSOR gear, BFG, Tyr, Crye, etc

April 21st, 2011, 20:39	#4
kullwarrior Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada	Beside using that consider... Real Steel Buffer Real steel Recoil Spring (you might have to shorten a bit to reduce the tension) Put spacer so the gun is very close to not locking back. __________________

April 21st, 2011, 20:25	#2
The Chad formerly LoveMyStubby Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SW ON	That should do it.

April 21st, 2011, 23:45	#6
kullwarrior Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada	Just note what I said above will dramatic increase the wear of the internal. __________________

April 21st, 2011, 23:52	#7
Gunny_McSmith a.k.a. Palucol Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: MTL	+ cooldown... but if you dont shoot in full auto you should be fine.... __________________

April 22nd, 2011, 04:20	#9
ofirn2008 Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Israel	Thank you guys for your comments. RA-TECH Is to expensive for me. Steel Bolt carier cost 140 USD. ELEMENT's cost 64 USD. I never shoot on Auto mode its useless. About the spacer I already got one so it very close to not catch the bolt. I think if i will change the spacer from sponge to metal the absorption will be less - more felt recoil. Changing to real spring will cause to damage and failures in the blowback system. It's just too strong and if you shorting it the base will be unsimetric.

April 22nd, 2011, 09:54	#10
Gunny_McSmith a.k.a. Palucol Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: MTL	I suggest reading on the GasGun Info forum... there's lots of GBB experts from around the world on there.... and most of them ahve tried every single chinese parts and reviewed them on there! __________________

April 22nd, 2011, 14:03	#11
ofirn2008 Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Israel	Thank you very much.

April 22nd, 2011, 22:40	#12
turok_t Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada	If only using a a heavier buffer (5 oz) would there still be dramatic wear to the internals?

April 29th, 2011, 06:05	#13
ofirn2008 Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Israel	I just finished making my new buffer. Previous weight was 80 gram. Currently weight 200 gram. The recoil is now very hard and the kick is amaizing. I made the buffer from old flash hider of AK-47 SPETSNAZ, also I took the weight from the old buffer. I was suprised how well the new buffer sits in the tube.

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