Scope repair? (G&P Elkan)

Strelok · March 24th, 2011, 19:56

Alright, I purchased this sight from Airsoftparts.ca, it was received faulty.Being too busy, I let it sit around too long so I didn't bother asking for a refund.

This is a doodle of the issue. If you look down the sight directly, you get a bit of a 'ghost image' of the sight picture off to the right. Aside from that, the scope is crystal clear, and adjustable, but offset to the point where it doesn't line up correctly. I'm no expert on scopes, but i'm thinking a lense might be a bit tilted or crooked?

Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated, thanks!

D.Kovacs · March 24th, 2011, 20:14

are the lenses coated? does the image ever change position? if so, t could be a reflection of the crosshair on a lense. Can you move either of the outer lenses? happened on a scope of mine.

FOX_111 · March 24th, 2011, 23:18

IMO, it's FUBAR.
Fucked Up Beyond Any Repair.

Specs · March 29th, 2011, 12:22

you could try bashing it against a rock

ArcticFox1984 · April 1st, 2011, 15:41

Picture reversal assembly is knocked WAY off.

The windage adjustment lever pushes or retracts this assembly which is spring loaded on 2 axis opposite the windage and elevation adjustment knobs.

You would need to remove the ocular assembly which is threaded in. ( business end of the scope. )

Remove the picture reversal assembly and inspect the spring loaded mechanism; if nothing is damaged ( most likely isn't, if it is; fix is simply bending things back into shape. ) you should be able to reassemble the scope to proper working order.

I'de suggest cleaning the grease off everything, relube it, replace Orings as necessary and purge the inside of the scope with a 2-3 second blast of duster gas before reassembly.

Or just buy a better Elcan... G&P is about as bad as it gets I'm sorry to say.

You could also try slacking off the windage completely, then tapping the side of the scope with a hammer ( or rock like Specs suggested lol. )

thpethalK · April 1st, 2011, 16:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcticFox1984

Picture reversal assembly is knocked WAY off.

The windage adjustment lever pushes or retracts this assembly which is spring loaded on 2 axis opposite the windage and elevation adjustment knobs.

You would need to remove the ocular assembly which is threaded in. ( business end of the scope. )

Remove the picture reversal assembly and inspect the spring loaded mechanism; if nothing is damaged ( most likely isn't, if it is; fix is simply bending things back into shape. ) you should be able to reassemble the scope to proper working order.

I'de suggest cleaning the grease off everything, relube it, replace Orings as necessary and purge the inside of the scope with a 2-3 second blast of duster gas before reassembly.

Or just buy a better Elcan... G&P is about as bad as it gets I'm sorry to say.

You could also try slacking off the windage completely, then tapping the side of the scope with a hammer ( or rock like Specs suggested lol. )

Exactly the same thing I did with my ACOG when I had a similar issue

FOX_111 · April 1st, 2011, 16:07

Opening a scope seal would result in losing the nitrogen inside and having to worry about fog INSIDE the scope.

Strelok · April 1st, 2011, 16:48

Well, thanks! I figured with G&P being a pretty quality brand with everything else, their scopes would be atleast OK.

I'm gonna start fucking around with the stuff as suggested above and see if that helps at all. If not, i'm gonna go blast it at the range or something.

ArcticFox1984 · April 1st, 2011, 19:46

Fox, thats assuming the scope was purged with nitrogen to begin with.

In my experience G&P does not purge their scopes with anything. The rear lense in my T1 was screwed in very loose when I got it. and I know for certain the flimsy rubber grommet found in their ACOG replica's can't keep water out so I doubt they could keep nitrogen in.

Not to mention; no where does G&P state that their scopes have any features whatsoever. In my experience if a product was made to be waterpoof, fogproof, or recoil resistant the company would want to advertise that... especially at the absurd prices G&P charges; yet they do not.

There are exceptions to the rule, where they make a product above average; and ones like in the case of their Elcan where they are far below whats expected.

You get what you pay for though, the G&P Elcan is pretty affordable compared to other companies replica's.

BloodSport · April 1st, 2011, 22:17

I've had a G&P scope for almost 8 years now, with zero fogging issues even during MR2 where we had a monsoon hit us in the middle of the prairies.

Pretty safe to say there have something inside of them preventing fogging.

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March 24th, 2011, 19:56	#1
Strelok Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Brandon Manitoba	Scope repair? (G&P Elkan) Alright, I purchased this sight from Airsoftparts.ca, it was received faulty.Being too busy, I let it sit around too long so I didn't bother asking for a refund. This is a doodle of the issue. If you look down the sight directly, you get a bit of a 'ghost image' of the sight picture off to the right. Aside from that, the scope is crystal clear, and adjustable, but offset to the point where it doesn't line up correctly. I'm no expert on scopes, but i'm thinking a lense might be a bit tilted or crooked? Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated, thanks!

March 24th, 2011, 20:14	#2
D.Kovacs Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Winnipeg	are the lenses coated? does the image ever change position? if so, t could be a reflection of the crosshair on a lense. Can you move either of the outer lenses? happened on a scope of mine. Last edited by D.Kovacs; March 24th, 2011 at 20:16..

March 24th, 2011, 23:18	#3
FOX_111 Le Roi des poissons d'avril Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Terrebonne, Québec	IMO, it's FUBAR. Fucked Up Beyond Any Repair. __________________ Vérificateur d'âge: Terrebonne

March 29th, 2011, 12:22	#4
Specs Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Victoria City	you could try bashing it against a rock __________________ Kingston airsoft, we do it better.

April 1st, 2011, 15:41	#5
ArcticFox1984 Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario	Picture reversal assembly is knocked WAY off. The windage adjustment lever pushes or retracts this assembly which is spring loaded on 2 axis opposite the windage and elevation adjustment knobs. You would need to remove the ocular assembly which is threaded in. ( business end of the scope. ) Remove the picture reversal assembly and inspect the spring loaded mechanism; if nothing is damaged ( most likely isn't, if it is; fix is simply bending things back into shape. ) you should be able to reassemble the scope to proper working order. I'de suggest cleaning the grease off everything, relube it, replace Orings as necessary and purge the inside of the scope with a 2-3 second blast of duster gas before reassembly. Or just buy a better Elcan... G&P is about as bad as it gets I'm sorry to say. You could also try slacking off the windage completely, then tapping the side of the scope with a hammer ( or rock like Specs suggested lol. ) Last edited by ArcticFox1984; April 1st, 2011 at 15:47..

April 1st, 2011, 16:07	#7
FOX_111 Le Roi des poissons d'avril Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Terrebonne, Québec	Opening a scope seal would result in losing the nitrogen inside and having to worry about fog INSIDE the scope. __________________ Vérificateur d'âge: Terrebonne

April 1st, 2011, 16:48	#8
Strelok Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Brandon Manitoba	Well, thanks! I figured with G&P being a pretty quality brand with everything else, their scopes would be atleast OK. I'm gonna start fucking around with the stuff as suggested above and see if that helps at all. If not, i'm gonna go blast it at the range or something.

April 1st, 2011, 19:46	#9
ArcticFox1984 Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario	Fox, thats assuming the scope was purged with nitrogen to begin with. In my experience G&P does not purge their scopes with anything. The rear lense in my T1 was screwed in very loose when I got it. and I know for certain the flimsy rubber grommet found in their ACOG replica's can't keep water out so I doubt they could keep nitrogen in. Not to mention; no where does G&P state that their scopes have any features whatsoever. In my experience if a product was made to be waterpoof, fogproof, or recoil resistant the company would want to advertise that... especially at the absurd prices G&P charges; yet they do not. There are exceptions to the rule, where they make a product above average; and ones like in the case of their Elcan where they are far below whats expected. You get what you pay for though, the G&P Elcan is pretty affordable compared to other companies replica's. Last edited by ArcticFox1984; April 1st, 2011 at 19:52..

April 1st, 2011, 22:17	#10
BloodSport Traveling Man Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan	I've had a G&P scope for almost 8 years now, with zero fogging issues even during MR2 where we had a monsoon hit us in the middle of the prairies. Pretty safe to say there have something inside of them preventing fogging. __________________ Saskatchewan Age Verifier! Contact for more Info.

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