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Strelok March 24th, 2011 19:56

Scope repair? (G&P Elkan)
 
Alright, I purchased this sight from Airsoftparts.ca, it was received faulty.Being too busy, I let it sit around too long so I didn't bother asking for a refund.

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This is a doodle of the issue. If you look down the sight directly, you get a bit of a 'ghost image' of the sight picture off to the right. Aside from that, the scope is crystal clear, and adjustable, but offset to the point where it doesn't line up correctly. I'm no expert on scopes, but i'm thinking a lense might be a bit tilted or crooked?

Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated, thanks!

D.Kovacs March 24th, 2011 20:14

are the lenses coated? does the image ever change position? if so, t could be a reflection of the crosshair on a lense. Can you move either of the outer lenses? happened on a scope of mine.

FOX_111 March 24th, 2011 23:18

IMO, it's FUBAR.
Fucked Up Beyond Any Repair.

Specs March 29th, 2011 12:22

you could try bashing it against a rock

ArcticFox1984 April 1st, 2011 15:41

Picture reversal assembly is knocked WAY off.

The windage adjustment lever pushes or retracts this assembly which is spring loaded on 2 axis opposite the windage and elevation adjustment knobs.

You would need to remove the ocular assembly which is threaded in. ( business end of the scope. )

Remove the picture reversal assembly and inspect the spring loaded mechanism; if nothing is damaged ( most likely isn't, if it is; fix is simply bending things back into shape. ) you should be able to reassemble the scope to proper working order.

I'de suggest cleaning the grease off everything, relube it, replace Orings as necessary and purge the inside of the scope with a 2-3 second blast of duster gas before reassembly.

Or just buy a better Elcan... G&P is about as bad as it gets I'm sorry to say.

You could also try slacking off the windage completely, then tapping the side of the scope with a hammer ( or rock like Specs suggested lol. )

thpethalK April 1st, 2011 16:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcticFox1984 (Post 1440341)
Picture reversal assembly is knocked WAY off.

The windage adjustment lever pushes or retracts this assembly which is spring loaded on 2 axis opposite the windage and elevation adjustment knobs.

You would need to remove the ocular assembly which is threaded in. ( business end of the scope. )

Remove the picture reversal assembly and inspect the spring loaded mechanism; if nothing is damaged ( most likely isn't, if it is; fix is simply bending things back into shape. ) you should be able to reassemble the scope to proper working order.

I'de suggest cleaning the grease off everything, relube it, replace Orings as necessary and purge the inside of the scope with a 2-3 second blast of duster gas before reassembly.

Or just buy a better Elcan... G&P is about as bad as it gets I'm sorry to say.

You could also try slacking off the windage completely, then tapping the side of the scope with a hammer ( or rock like Specs suggested lol. )


Exactly the same thing I did with my ACOG when I had a similar issue

FOX_111 April 1st, 2011 16:07

Opening a scope seal would result in losing the nitrogen inside and having to worry about fog INSIDE the scope.

Strelok April 1st, 2011 16:48

Well, thanks! I figured with G&P being a pretty quality brand with everything else, their scopes would be atleast OK.

I'm gonna start fucking around with the stuff as suggested above and see if that helps at all. If not, i'm gonna go blast it at the range or something.

ArcticFox1984 April 1st, 2011 19:46

Fox, thats assuming the scope was purged with nitrogen to begin with.

In my experience G&P does not purge their scopes with anything. The rear lense in my T1 was screwed in very loose when I got it. and I know for certain the flimsy rubber grommet found in their ACOG replica's can't keep water out so I doubt they could keep nitrogen in.

Not to mention; no where does G&P state that their scopes have any features whatsoever. In my experience if a product was made to be waterpoof, fogproof, or recoil resistant the company would want to advertise that... especially at the absurd prices G&P charges; yet they do not.

There are exceptions to the rule, where they make a product above average; and ones like in the case of their Elcan where they are far below whats expected.

You get what you pay for though, the G&P Elcan is pretty affordable compared to other companies replica's.

BloodSport April 1st, 2011 22:17

I've had a G&P scope for almost 8 years now, with zero fogging issues even during MR2 where we had a monsoon hit us in the middle of the prairies.

Pretty safe to say there have something inside of them preventing fogging.


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