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Kit · August 23rd, 2009, 19:40

I happened to find a manual to the US Military and it looks pretty interesting its every hand book they have in one for the marines, navy seals ect. from movement, concealment how to command, use weapons just everything. its a torrent thats 2G's here it is:

http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/9...ls?tab=summary

scottyfox · August 23rd, 2009, 20:01

Wow this is wildly inappropriate. There is a reason AKO/DKO is password protected, and that reason isn't just so that airsofters can't access doctrine and training pubs.

Don't think that I'm mad at you for posting this, it must seem like a great find but don't expect it to be available for long. This more serious than sharing say, music and those responsible will and should be prosecuted swiftly.
Thanks

Kit · August 23rd, 2009, 20:18

Sorry? but i don't get what you mean.. how this inappropriate? and AKO/DKO?

scottyfox · August 23rd, 2009, 20:27

Army Knowledge Online/Defence Knowledge Online, the place where the person with access (mil pers, DoD civilian etc) got them. A couple of these pubs are available publicly but the vast majority are restricted for use of the defence team and it is a breach of operational security for that person to have made them available.

Kit · August 23rd, 2009, 20:35

Well i know it cant be good to rip off real US Military hand books. So what should I do then? Sit here in guilt for telling people about this? Sorry if I offended anyone..

scottyfox · August 23rd, 2009, 20:49

No not at all, it's all good. Not sure how they'd do it but it should be removed soon, or you know- the terrorists might win

Tex · August 23rd, 2009, 20:54

it's been up for 8+ months and more like it have been floating around for years. they are anything but swift when it comes to removing items like that.

scottyfox · August 23rd, 2009, 20:56

Sigh, that's unfortunate.

Evans · August 23rd, 2009, 20:58

That's a pretty major thing to have floating around the internet.

Kit · August 23rd, 2009, 21:01

I got rid of it. I see theres no need for it. And no need to have it really.. But I was pretty shocked that something like that is on the net..

DuffMan · August 24th, 2009, 01:19

*Sigh* You can buy most of these manuals at big box book stores, ebay, whatever. Over the course of a year I got gifted Petreus' COIN manual with 4 different covers/publishers.

Much ado about nothing.

scottyfox · August 24th, 2009, 01:33

Yes, Counterinsurgency was published for public consumption. And outdated stuff is fairgame, but the torrent purports to have current, unreleased doctrine and training pubs.
And that is a no-no, trust me.

.JET · August 24th, 2009, 02:17

Reading a book does not teach you how to be tactical... Nothing replaces man-to-man training to be honest. Even if the book has the best images or if it has links to videos. It can help to know, but in the end it simply isn't the same. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

Drake · August 24th, 2009, 02:40

Hrm, while a few of those are indeed rare (i.e., I didn't have 'em), between globalsecurity, FAS and armystudyguide.com the bulk of them were already available.

p.s., everyone should read FM 21-76

Kit · August 24th, 2009, 10:33

whats FM 21-76?

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August 23rd, 2009, 19:40	#1
Kit Ride Sleds! Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Kitchener+Cambridge, Ontario	This is Interesting I happened to find a manual to the US Military and it looks pretty interesting its every hand book they have in one for the marines, navy seals ect. from movement, concealment how to command, use weapons just everything. its a torrent thats 2G's here it is: http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/9...ls?tab=summary __________________ Retired.

August 23rd, 2009, 20:18	#3
Kit Ride Sleds! Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Kitchener+Cambridge, Ontario	Sorry? but i don't get what you mean.. how this inappropriate? and AKO/DKO? __________________ Retired.

August 23rd, 2009, 20:35	#5
Kit Ride Sleds! Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Kitchener+Cambridge, Ontario	Well i know it cant be good to rip off real US Military hand books. So what should I do then? Sit here in guilt for telling people about this? Sorry if I offended anyone.. __________________ Retired.

August 23rd, 2009, 20:01	#2
scottyfox Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ottawa	Wow this is wildly inappropriate. There is a reason AKO/DKO is password protected, and that reason isn't just so that airsofters can't access doctrine and training pubs. Don't think that I'm mad at you for posting this, it must seem like a great find but don't expect it to be available for long. This more serious than sharing say, music and those responsible will and should be prosecuted swiftly. Thanks

August 23rd, 2009, 20:27	#4
scottyfox Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ottawa	Army Knowledge Online/Defence Knowledge Online, the place where the person with access (mil pers, DoD civilian etc) got them. A couple of these pubs are available publicly but the vast majority are restricted for use of the defence team and it is a breach of operational security for that person to have made them available.

August 23rd, 2009, 20:49	#6
scottyfox Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ottawa	No not at all, it's all good. Not sure how they'd do it but it should be removed soon, or you know- the terrorists might win

August 23rd, 2009, 20:54	#7
Tex Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Abbotsford, B.C.	it's been up for 8+ months and more like it have been floating around for years. they are anything but swift when it comes to removing items like that.

August 23rd, 2009, 20:56	#8
scottyfox Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ottawa	Sigh, that's unfortunate.

August 23rd, 2009, 20:58	#9
Evans Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Calgary, Alberta	That's a pretty major thing to have floating around the internet.

August 23rd, 2009, 21:01	#10
Kit Ride Sleds! Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Kitchener+Cambridge, Ontario	I got rid of it. I see theres no need for it. And no need to have it really.. But I was pretty shocked that something like that is on the net.. __________________ Retired.

August 24th, 2009, 01:19	#11
DuffMan Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2004	Sigh You can buy most of these manuals at big box book stores, ebay, whatever. Over the course of a year I got gifted Petreus' COIN manual with 4 different covers/publishers. Much ado about nothing. __________________ "He resisted. I asked him to comply." "Telling him to 'eat it, bitch' is not really a request."

August 24th, 2009, 01:33	#12
scottyfox Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ottawa	Yes, Counterinsurgency was published for public consumption. And outdated stuff is fairgame, but the torrent purports to have current, unreleased doctrine and training pubs. And that is a no-no, trust me.

August 24th, 2009, 02:17	#13
.JET Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Montreal, QC	Reading a book does not teach you how to be tactical... Nothing replaces man-to-man training to be honest. Even if the book has the best images or if it has links to videos. It can help to know, but in the end it simply isn't the same. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

August 24th, 2009, 02:40	#14
Drake E-01 Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Montreal, QC	Hrm, while a few of those are indeed rare (i.e., I didn't have 'em), between globalsecurity, FAS and armystudyguide.com the bulk of them were already available. p.s., everyone should read FM 21-76 __________________ Last edited by Drake; August 24th, 2009 at 02:42..

August 24th, 2009, 10:33	#15
Kit Ride Sleds! Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Kitchener+Cambridge, Ontario	whats FM 21-76? __________________ Retired.

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