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Old November 1st, 2008, 05:15   #1
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buy one or build one ?

ok i did warn you,
first stupid question,

i'm looking for a ( my first ) GGB

but i think it would stay with one

favorites models for now;

1911A1 and the whole family
D.E .50
glock 17

but i was wondering
with all the upgrades and aftermarket stuff available
( i want to tune , thinker, and build )

why by a complete ggb ?
and why not build your own ? select a frame , slide, barrel ect..

ok you will need to order a lot off little parts to complete it,
and it would not be cheap.

pro's and con's ?

gr, martin
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Old November 1st, 2008, 05:20   #2
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you really cant build your own.... well you can but its REALLY EXPENSIVE and you cant really find ALL the parts so you need to find a part gun or 2 guns.....






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Old November 1st, 2008, 05:21   #3
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oh and they are called GBB Gas Blow Back
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Old November 1st, 2008, 05:24   #4
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lol u dont know the correct term and you are considering "building" your own? an aeg would be an easier build, something tells me you aren't ready to be building your own "ggb"'s
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Old November 1st, 2008, 05:36   #5
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BUY one. its going to be damn near impossible to find all the little bits and parts. let alone put it together from scratch.

do you think you'll be able to put something like this together from scratch
P.S: yes i know this is an uncommon gunn but the point still stands.

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Old November 1st, 2008, 07:35   #6
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it really IS impossible to build one from scratch. the amount of tiny parts you need to source that no one really sells, plus it'll be more expensive than buying one thats already put together. Also, are you even 18?
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Old November 1st, 2008, 11:24   #7
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Buy one first unless you already have a ton of spare parts kicking around.
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Old November 1st, 2008, 12:25   #8
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Building yourself a GBB will be expensive.
But, if you build one with quality parts, and you have the money, why not?
Are you experienced with GBBS and working on internals?
Many parts are designed to fit, some aren't.
Since you're in Europe, why build up a DE, G17 or 1911A1 when you can buy the complete thing?
There's really no point of building it up. Waste of money and time.
If you get one of the gun, and then start upgrading parts ON it, then it would be fine.=You save time and money.
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Old November 1st, 2008, 13:41   #9
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Buy one...then get/scrounge/buy/trade/etc...the neat parts you want. You'll pretty soon end up with nearly enough parts to build a near complete other one...then you can find/scrounge/buy/trade/etc for a complete broken one and fix it up...then you'll have most of the parts you need for another one..etc...

Then one day, you'll look around and you'll have 3-7 GBBs...and a box full of mags...and boxes full of parts...and no money.

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It's definitely worth buying the base pistol (NEW) and then upgrading the crap out of it. Change one thing at a time, don't expect all the parts to do what they say they're supposed to do and don't expect it to actually work better by just slapping parts into it.

I slapped together a Hicapa two nights ago and it sort of worked...but not really well. I spent an hour on it last night and made it worse. I spent another 2 hours on it this morning and it's decent now.

Some are easier to find parts for than others. i.e. Hicapas, Glocks, etc...

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Old November 1st, 2008, 18:21   #10
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White_Knight what GBB is that? that really is a weird system
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Old November 1st, 2008, 18:29   #11
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GGB? If your unaware of the name of something you want to build, chances is you can't.
I would never tell someone to go and build one esspecially as first gun cause you have no familiarity of the technology. Buy, tinker, then if you feel as if you know enough to build, then by all means, go for it....if your 18+.
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Old November 1st, 2008, 18:55   #12
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BUY one. its going to be damn near impossible to find all the little bits and parts. let alone put it together from scratch.

do you think you'll be able to put something like this together from scratch
P.S: yes i know this is an uncommon gunn but the point still stands.

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Old November 1st, 2008, 21:13   #13
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are you even 18?
GG..you flatter me

in my hart i think so, but my body sometimes thinks otherwise

the ggb.. sorry my bad, english is not my first languish
and it was still very early, when i typed that..

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Are you experienced with GBBS and working on internals?
not really, took my old spring gun several time apart, but that's peanuts compared with a gbb

learning very fast.. ( that's way i joint this forum, very good info )

( side note; i'm a mechanic with a Prostock ( buell ) with some degree in engineering )

besides my fascination for gbb's , also the engineering bit that make me like it

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don't expect all the parts to do what they say they're supposed to do and don't expect it to actually work better by just slapping parts into it.
thanks, was afraid off that...
we have in our shop the saying " custom parts never fit "
so we do allot off parts remodeling / redesigning our selfs

any way thanks for the response, by one and tune the hell out off it seams a good start,
going to read up some more on the basics, and learn for other peoples experience,
but most off the times with tuning and upgrading, your always looking at the next thing to break

next week off the the shop, to have a feel and drool session

regards, martin
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Old November 1st, 2008, 21:24   #14
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If you intend to play, I'd forget about GBB for at least a year. Unless you play in a real CQB environement (building), a pistol will be outclassed all the time.

Only at Beauharnois (our CQB field) that a pistol own AEG.
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Old November 1st, 2008, 21:45   #15
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Get a Tokyo Marui 4.3 or 5.1 Hi-Capa or some TM or KSC Glocks. There's a ton of parts available for them. You could easily spend a few times the cost of the gun on upgrades and accessories.
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