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Old December 3rd, 2007, 08:55   #1
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Help me with this deal please

Hey, I am getting a TM psg-1 for about 600 dollars worth of trades.
I am not paying much out of pocket for this so it seems like a good deal for me.

Here is the issue.

I have a guy who wants the psg, he will give me TM m4 (stock) with Tasco red dot sight. for it.

is this acceptable?

the psg is near mint, never used
the m4 has been used once or twice. (apparently)
the tasco red dot is brand new

please let me know your opinions on this trade.
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Old December 3rd, 2007, 09:25   #2
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well i figure since im out about 500-550 (non cash)
all trades, for the psg1, not bad...
but thats why im asking here.

i hear the psg are hard to get rid of. Not many have use for this gun aside from collecting and such.

i also hear the psg used is worth about 500 max?

what is a good quality used m4 with tasco red dot worth?
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Old December 3rd, 2007, 09:34   #3
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the tasco is really not much
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Old December 3rd, 2007, 09:35   #4
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i also hear the psg used is worth about 500 max?
who told you that, the guy your selling it to? a tm m4 stock goes for like what 500+ new, so it would be reasonable to put its worth at around 350 used?

the tasco you can get at any cantire for like 40$ and unless it comes with a carry handle mount, its completely useless.

i have never owned psg but i think you are getting the raw end of the deal.
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Old December 3rd, 2007, 09:37   #5
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PSG1 sells for $830 on 007 new.

M4 is $450-$500 depending on the model

Tasco scope is $40 at wal mart or cdn tire.

If you want an AEG sniper, and want the PSG then just stick with your deal. If they guy came behind you in the offer to buy, then he has to wait until you back down.
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Old December 3rd, 2007, 09:40   #6
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excellent thanks for the input, i just want everyones opinion on this matter

so the psg issue- its not good for sniping i hear, cause it performs no better than your average AEG right?

the m4 is tried tested and true, someone equated the m4 as the "honda civic" of airsoft...very upgradable, very reliable....correct?
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Old December 3rd, 2007, 09:42   #7
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also, how much would it cost me to make this m4 totally metal?
or mostly metal...im just worried about the all plastic design.
and what do i need to get this thing up to about 400 fps?
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Old December 3rd, 2007, 09:48   #8
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A stock PSG1 is basically a semi-automatic M16, but it can be heavily upgraded to match the Springer Bolt-actions, or so I've heard. Trading it off for a used TM M4 is nowhere close to being fair. The guy who's offering to trade you the M4 is taking advantage of you, as you aren't familiar with the value of each.

As for upgrading an M4 to full-metal, probably around $200 depending on what you get and from where. To get it to 400fps, probably $100-$150 if you get good quality parts, but again, it depends on what and where.
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Old December 3rd, 2007, 09:50   #9
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tight, so many opposing views!
so it sounds like i should hold the psg and put it on the classifieds here...
if i ever get verified...lol
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Old December 3rd, 2007, 10:00   #10
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It depends on your play style, really. If you're into the whole sniper thing then don't let anyone tell you it's not "practical" in airsoft, because there are ways you can make it successful. The M4 is extremely versatile and can be upgraded/modified to fill absolutely any role, plus after-market support is readily available for it.

But it really all comes down to what you see yourself doing in Airsoft. If you ever want to participate in CQB, you may be better off with the M4. If you'll only ever be out in the woods and fields to play, then go with the PSG-1. Mind you, the M4 can be upgraded to be a pretty decent sniper support weapon.
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Old December 3rd, 2007, 10:10   #11
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killer, thanks for the help everyone
i think i might keep the psg-1 and try to get a better deal on these classifieds, instead of trading straight up for the used m4/rds

seems to make more sense...agreed?
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Like I said, personal preference. If you're asking me what I'd do, I'd take the M4 in a heartbeat.
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Old December 3rd, 2007, 10:22   #13
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Personal preference has nothing to do with $ value. I'd rather have an M4 AEG than a Sniper Rifle, but regardless, I wouldn't trade a PSG1 for an M4 that's worth half the value just because it's automatic.

If he gets what the PSG1 is worth, he'll have a lot more fun.
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Old December 3rd, 2007, 10:25   #14
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im just new to this and dont want to get the really short end of the deal...i hate being ripped off lol, dont we all.
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Old December 3rd, 2007, 10:37   #15
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Grab the PSG1 definately. For sniping it does have an advantage over AEGs - it operates precocked, i.e, the spring is compressed, you pull the trigger and it immedietly fires, instead of winding up first like an AEG.

Keep the PSG1, buy a used M4 here, and keep both. M4 for medium ranges or even CQB, and the PSG for sniping. I sure as hell wouldn't mind owning a PSG1.
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