setting things up

jaa · August 15th, 2007, 23:23

I'm setting things up for a small game with about a dozen people. We're playing in several acres of forest (yes I'm picking up a ghillie suit on the way there), privately owned by a friend of mine who gave me permission to use it on the condition that we used biodegradable BBs.

I have batteries, BBs, safety glasses, and cold beer for everyone. I also have two spare pistols in case some idiot forgets his gun, but the rule is if you're that stupid I will give you a 3 dollar crapsoft pistol.

Now I know I'm forgetting something, I just can't figure out what.

TrueTGN · August 15th, 2007, 23:25

Wait, what? Was there a point to this topic?

jaa · August 15th, 2007, 23:39

am I forgetting something in relation to the upcoming game?

TokyoSeven · August 15th, 2007, 23:45

Well if this is a post to let everyone know your intention of hosting a game and that you want people to attend. Its in the wrong place to be posted. Also you may wish to look into speaking with your friend and working something up about liability for the people you will have on your land, in regards to personal injury or damage to your friends property. Also, a set date and time would be good as well.

Now if this was a post delcaring that you and a few friends are going to go out and shoot each other for fun, then disregard everything I said above.

You were not very clear with the point of your post, its somewhat confusing as to me it just seems like a random comment.

jaa · August 16th, 2007, 00:06

really sorry for being vague folks, it's the second one. I've told everyone the rules (three teams of four, last team with players standing wins the round. There are no illegal shots, within reason. aka don't go and aim specifically for someone's face. If you've been hit, you walk back to a small clearing and wait for the next round. Everyone IS over 18.)

The question is, am I likely to get sued for anything doing this? I think I've got my bases covered, but I'm not entirely certain.

jaa · August 16th, 2007, 00:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by C.G

Might be nice too not to insult people if they don't have guns and might want to try it out for the first time, instead of refering to them as stupid or idiots, for your first host on a never before used plot of land.
just a wee suggestion.

yeah, got a little carried away there

dontask · August 16th, 2007, 00:22

contact the local law enforcement to inform them that you will be having this event?

jaa · August 16th, 2007, 00:50

hmmm... I thought it being in a rather concealed/ remote area and on private property would make us less of a target for cops.

Brian McIlmoyle · August 16th, 2007, 01:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaa

hmmm... I thought it being in a rather concealed/ remote area and on private property would make us less of a target for cops.

Before you do this, have a sit down with the local police and by law officer.

Although such actions on private property do not break criminal laws you could be breaking municiple by laws ... if so it will cost you a fine...
and an end to your actions there.

inform the police.... that way you won't have them showing up in force with guns drawn when an onlooker calls 911 and reports " guys with guns in the woods"

do it right and you will know you will be ok.... Hope no one notices... and you could end up tasting dirt with shackles on.

jaa · August 16th, 2007, 02:19

alright then, time to schedule a meeting

Lawdog · August 16th, 2007, 09:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaa

really sorry for being vague folks, it's the second one. I've told everyone the rules (three teams of four, last team with players standing wins the round. There are no illegal shots, within reason. aka don't go and aim specifically for someone's face. If you've been hit, you walk back to a small clearing and wait for the next round. Everyone IS over 18.)

The question is, am I likely to get sued for anything doing this? I think I've got my bases covered, but I'm not entirely certain.

Since you have used the word "sued" in your post, I might ask precisely what insurance you have in place to protect both you and property owner if someone gets injured and decides to seek damages for that injury.

LD

Greylocks · August 16th, 2007, 10:14

As asked, did you check with the police, the bylaws, and if the owner is insured?
Is the site 100% secured?
Are you, as the organizer, insured?
Are all the players over 18?

Those are all questions you must resolve before you do anything. If not, you can wind up in jail and get a criminal record (those dont go away).

jaa · August 16th, 2007, 13:15

ok guys thanks for all your help

A) the site is four acres of woodland surrounded on three sides by fields owned by people who know what we're doing and have told us to go ahead.

B) I stopped by 42 division and told them exactly what we'd be doing, and we're all reasonably certain that playing airsoft at this site is legal.

C) As for insurance, these are all very good friends of mine who all graduated high school in the same year as me. I've spent four years with these guys and I'm quite certain they are all 18+. Nevertheless, I have a waiver signed by all of them saying they themselves are personally responsible for all injuries that they get playing airsoft in these woods. I hope I don't have to pull it out, but it's in a locked cabinet.

jaa · August 16th, 2007, 13:15

oh, the fourth side is water

Greylocks · August 16th, 2007, 13:21

Read what Lawdog said in another thread just in this part of the forums.

My call? You are getting into something you are not ready at all for. Since even getting camo is a problem for you, you have no idea what's involved here.

How about you hang out for several months before trying something like this? By then you will have learned why taking your time is important.

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August 15th, 2007, 23:23	#1
jaa Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto	setting things up I'm setting things up for a small game with about a dozen people. We're playing in several acres of forest (yes I'm picking up a ghillie suit on the way there), privately owned by a friend of mine who gave me permission to use it on the condition that we used biodegradable BBs. I have batteries, BBs, safety glasses, and cold beer for everyone. I also have two spare pistols in case some idiot forgets his gun, but the rule is if you're that stupid I will give you a 3 dollar crapsoft pistol. Now I know I'm forgetting something, I just can't figure out what. __________________ I believe in ordinance overkill We're gonna need more BBS

August 15th, 2007, 23:25	#2
TrueTGN Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Brantford, ON	Wait, what? Was there a point to this topic? __________________ www.jeepcentral.ca

August 15th, 2007, 23:39	#3
jaa Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto	am I forgetting something in relation to the upcoming game? __________________ I believe in ordinance overkill We're gonna need more BBS

August 15th, 2007, 23:45	#4
TokyoSeven Red Wine & Adderall Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Saskatoon, SK	Well if this is a post to let everyone know your intention of hosting a game and that you want people to attend. Its in the wrong place to be posted. Also you may wish to look into speaking with your friend and working something up about liability for the people you will have on your land, in regards to personal injury or damage to your friends property. Also, a set date and time would be good as well. Now if this was a post delcaring that you and a few friends are going to go out and shoot each other for fun, then disregard everything I said above. You were not very clear with the point of your post, its somewhat confusing as to me it just seems like a random comment. __________________ "Its only a little bit on fire"

August 16th, 2007, 00:06	#5
jaa Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto	really sorry for being vague folks, it's the second one. I've told everyone the rules (three teams of four, last team with players standing wins the round. There are no illegal shots, within reason. aka don't go and aim specifically for someone's face. If you've been hit, you walk back to a small clearing and wait for the next round. Everyone IS over 18.) The question is, am I likely to get sued for anything doing this? I think I've got my bases covered, but I'm not entirely certain. __________________ I believe in ordinance overkill We're gonna need more BBS

August 16th, 2007, 00:22	#7
dontask Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Vancouver	contact the local law enforcement to inform them that you will be having this event?

August 16th, 2007, 00:50	#8
jaa Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto	hmmm... I thought it being in a rather concealed/ remote area and on private property would make us less of a target for cops. __________________ I believe in ordinance overkill We're gonna need more BBS

August 16th, 2007, 02:19	#10
jaa Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto	alright then, time to schedule a meeting __________________ I believe in ordinance overkill We're gonna need more BBS

August 16th, 2007, 10:14	#12
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	As asked, did you check with the police, the bylaws, and if the owner is insured? Is the site 100% secured? Are you, as the organizer, insured? Are all the players over 18? Those are all questions you must resolve before you do anything. If not, you can wind up in jail and get a criminal record (those dont go away).

August 16th, 2007, 13:15	#13
jaa Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto	ok guys thanks for all your help A) the site is four acres of woodland surrounded on three sides by fields owned by people who know what we're doing and have told us to go ahead. B) I stopped by 42 division and told them exactly what we'd be doing, and we're all reasonably certain that playing airsoft at this site is legal. C) As for insurance, these are all very good friends of mine who all graduated high school in the same year as me. I've spent four years with these guys and I'm quite certain they are all 18+. Nevertheless, I have a waiver signed by all of them saying they themselves are personally responsible for all injuries that they get playing airsoft in these woods. I hope I don't have to pull it out, but it's in a locked cabinet. __________________ I believe in ordinance overkill We're gonna need more BBS

August 16th, 2007, 13:15	#14
jaa Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto	oh, the fourth side is water __________________ I believe in ordinance overkill We're gonna need more BBS

August 16th, 2007, 13:21	#15
Greylocks Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Gatineau, Quebec (Near Ottawa)	Read what Lawdog said in another thread just in this part of the forums. My call? You are getting into something you are not ready at all for. Since even getting camo is a problem for you, you have no idea what's involved here. How about you hang out for several months before trying something like this? By then you will have learned why taking your time is important.

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