China Blackhawk CQC Serpa Holster Clone

[huang]

The manufacturer cloned the real one by using a 3D scaner. This is a very high quality clone, same material, same buckles and straps that real one uses.
The price is decent, US$50. But of course, if you add 30-40, you probably can get real one though.






Same UTX bauckles as that real one uses.



They also make ISPC holster. A Japanese brand ISPC holster is actually their products.

[Ronan]

Just wondering mate. What's the point of weird holsters like the 2 you are showing... i have always used a normal holster and found it quite sufficient O_o

Are those special?

[Dr_Tinshnipz]

Originally Posted by Ronan

Just wondering mate. What's the point of weird holsters like the 2 you are showing... i have always used a normal holster and found it quite sufficient O_o

Are those special?

They are for ISPC.

[mcguyver]

I have a BH SERPA for my real Glock. It's far better for quick draw and safer re-holstering than using a Cordura drop leg. For real gun use, you should be able to re-holster and secure your gun with 1 hand . Difficult to impossible when using non-rigid holsters and you risk having the muzzle cross parts of your body (hand, arm, torso) when doing so. Very dangerous!!!

Not to mention the problem of losing mags with non-rigid holsters. Play enough and it will happen to you.

[JoeyJackhammer]

or whole guns... R.I.P WA beretta

[dontask]

Originally Posted by JoeyJackhammer

or whole guns... R.I.P WA beretta

ouch dude.... perfect version?

[Kimbo]

Ok, I'll bite. Whats the shipped price. Damn Huang with all the good stuff.

[nro_delta]

hello,

Where can we get those holster ?

rgds,

Originally Posted by mcguyver

I have a BH SERPA for my real Glock. It's far better for quick draw and safer re-holstering than using a Cordura drop leg.

There are several documented cases of experienced shooters having AD's on the draw as a result of the release mechanism. "Safer" it is not.

Particularly with Glocks.

Over the last year, I have developed some serious concerns with the Blackhawk Serpa Active Retention holster design. Various persons have brought these concerns to the attention of Blackhawk on several occasions and Blackhawk has chosen to ignore these very real issues.

The ‘Serpa Active Retention’ design consists of a plastic L-shaped component which functions as the release button [from the outside of the holster] and as the lock [which engages inside the trigger guard]. The short leg of the L-shaped lever pivots inward [toward the pistol], while the locking tab pivots outward to release the pistol from the holster.

According to the Blackhawk website, ”The release is made using your normal drawing motion, with the trigger finger beside the holster body. … As your trigger finger naturally comes to rest on the SERPA lock’s release mechanism, simply push the mechanism as you draw the weapon and it releases the gun for a smooth, fast draw.”

While Blackhawk may intend for the end-user to apply inboard pressure with the flat of the index finger, under stress, shooters tend to push the button with the tip of their index finger. After all, this is the manner in which most people have the most repetitions pushing buttons such as keys on a keypad or phone or ringing doorbells. When the finger pushes in on the release button and the user initiates the upward motion of the drawstroke, the finger tends to stay in motion and as the trigger guard clears the holster, the finger enters the trigger guard and contacts the trigger, with possibly tragic results.


I am aware of two instances where trained personnel have shot themselves using this holster in conjunction with Glock pistols. In August of 2004, a situation occurred with a live weapon that resulted in the shooter losing a 10cm piece of her femur. The other occurred with nonlethal training ammunitions in a force-on-force event in April of 2005. The impact of the NLTA was in the same area as the actual gunshot wound previously mentioned.

Following each of these events, Blackhawk was contacted and advised of the problems observed and concerns raised. In the first instance, they claimed that they were unaware of any previous issues with the design and insisted that the design had been ‘thoroughly tested by law enforcement and military personnel’.

After the second event, they were contacted by at least two people. Again, they stated that they were unaware of any concerns and had heard nothing similar from any sources.

If this were not disturbing enough, in October 2005, while assisting with a class in Casa Grande, AZ, additional concerns surfaced. During a force-on-force evolution, when a student attempted to draw an NLTA-modified Glock 17 from his Blackhawk Serpa holster, he was unable to free the gun from the holster.

In fact, the gun was so tightly held in the holster that, with one person applying both hands to the release button and another person applying two hands to the pistol, the gun could not be freed. Upon inspection, a small piece of gravel, approximately the size of the head of a pin, had managed to work itself into the Serpa release button and wedge the lock in place.

While trying to effect a release of the pistol from the holster, the entire holster popped off of the belt. The three screws that attach the holster body to the belt plate simply slipped through the tracks in the belt plate without apparent damage. Of what use is a retention holster that does not keep the gun on the belt?

In my opinion, the Blackhawk Serpa Active Retention holster is a severely flawed design. It offers the theoretical advantage of security while, in reality, offering none. It does not hold up to the rigors of realistic training. It accentuates the possibility of an unintentional discharge. It is unsafe.

If you, or anyone known to you, are currently using one of these holsters, please reconsider.

Sincerely,

Paul Gomez

[mcguyver]

I think these were the result of contamination of the holster and lock mechanism with sand or whatever. This is not likely to occur at an indoor gun range when the holster is transported and used in a relatively clean environment.

They would not let me use my Drop Zone holster when I went to do some shooting and had to use a Safariland for the reasons I stated above.

I don't believe the SERPA is the best there is, but for airsoft and for a $40 retail holster, it's definately the shit.

Did you read the article? The injuries were a result of natural reflex action under stress which caused the fingertip to contact the trigger on draw and discharge into the body of the user.

[mcguyver]

Originally Posted by MadMorbius

Did you read the article? The injuries were a result of natural reflex action under stress which caused the fingertip to contact the trigger on draw and discharge into the body of the user.

I know a few guys who use them and swear by them, even over the Safariland. I don't have a problem drawing from it or shooting from it. The design is such that there is no protection whatsoever from debris finding it's way in there and that does concern me. That's why I wouldn't go crawling through dirt with it.

But I've had mine for 6 months with no problems and others I know have had them for years with Glocks with no issues either. Perhaps theres other factors involved in accidents, like poor finger control (regardless of "natural motion" or inertia) or there could be issues with the design for guys with differing finger sizes. I don't know, but for me, it works fine.

[snafu1]

If you can get these for a M9 or a Glock 18 i will take one

[Goldman]

interested in black P226 w/ M3x.

[huang]

Originally Posted by snafu1

If you can get these for a M9 or a Glock 18 i will take one

Only have M9, P226 models now. 1911 in a month or two. Glock is in plan.