M4A1 Forgrip Question

DarkAngel · July 15th, 2007, 02:24

I have a CA OD M4 Handguard set which doesnt seem to fit into my existing delta ring set for my RIS. Is this normal? I was always under the assumption that RIS units and Handguards are swappable using the same Delta Ring set. Would i be able to use these handguards in a King Arms CASV Delta ring set?

m15a4master · July 15th, 2007, 13:01

is the gun a classic army

insanegame · July 15th, 2007, 13:40

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Originally Posted by m15a4master

is the gun a classic army

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Originally Posted by DarkAngel

CA OD M4 Handguard

Read closer..

[Lithium] · July 15th, 2007, 14:05

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Originally Posted by insanegame

Read closer..

As far as I know, Classic Army has Aftermarket Handgaurd sets. If so, then the gun could very well not be CA. He has a right to ask.

insanegame · July 15th, 2007, 14:23

Wow. Totally my bad. I guess my mind skipped reading handguard..

Sorry.

DarkAngel · July 15th, 2007, 23:14

The gun is not CA, I was under the assumption that all handguards were the same :s
I bought the handguards seperately NIB. It just doesnt fit.

If i buy a King Arms CASV, would the CA Handguards fit?

m15a4master · July 19th, 2007, 22:55

they should are they too long or what

Skruface · July 19th, 2007, 23:39

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Originally Posted by DarkAngel

I was under the assumption that all handguards were the same :s

Nope. Can't fit any handguards or RIS designed for an M4 onto an M733 without swapping the entire outer barrel for an M4 barrel. The M733's barrel has the front sight mounted about 1/2" farther forward - M4 foregrips, RAS panels and anything else secured by the front handguard cap will just fall right out. On the flip side, M733-designed stuff can be made to fit M4's with a file or dremel. I found out the hard way.

DarkAngel · July 24th, 2007, 02:46

Nono, im not using an commando or a CQB length outer barrel.
Its an M4 Length Barrel with a RIS Unit. The handguards I bought are also for an M4 but the RIS unit has a funny pin on the 12 and 6 positions of the delta ring. These two pins which lock the delta ring set together (with the spring inside) wont allow the handguards to fit into place because they are inside the groove where the handguard is supposed to fit

/|_i_|\
The groove inside the delta ring looks kinda like that.
The i being the locking pin that holds the delta ring together with the spring inside

Also the Handguards are a little too big for the RIS unit. they are about 1/2 - 1 cm too large for the current RIS setup. Im REALLY hoping the KA CASV will allow it to fit else i ordered a brand new handguard for no reason T.T

Drake · July 24th, 2007, 03:00

Gah, the more I read the more confused I'm getting.

Want to spell out exactly what you have for a gun, etc. Cuz so far the only part I'm clear on is that the new handguard is CA.

And offhand, yeah, generally speaking for the ARs, CA seems to be the odd man out for cross-compatibility.

Dracheous · July 24th, 2007, 10:22

er... so its a small pin in the delta ring thats not letting it sit? Ever think of cutting material from the hand guard to let it get in?

DarkAngel · July 25th, 2007, 01:41

I was thinking of cutting it. But im replacing it with a KA CASV set, and im hoping that itll fit without modifications to the delta ring set. If it doesnt fit, i wanna be able to sell it to someone who can use it. I just wanted to be able to strip a Rail system off due to the weight for certain scenarios.

NachoPuddin · July 25th, 2007, 01:51

i had a similar problem. Just ended up cutting it, and the hand guard was a little to short, so a think lay of electrical tape around outer barrel where HG touches and then just taping it to the gun. A little ugly, but only noticable if you look real real close. Just waiting to buy and R.I.S for it

Jar|-|ead · July 25th, 2007, 12:19

Some CASV has different delta rings

DarkAngel · July 25th, 2007, 17:14

Which ones? KA?

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July 15th, 2007, 02:24	#1
DarkAngel * Age Verifier status suspended * Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Scarborough	M4A1 Forgrip Question I have a CA OD M4 Handguard set which doesnt seem to fit into my existing delta ring set for my RIS. Is this normal? I was always under the assumption that RIS units and Handguards are swappable using the same Delta Ring set. Would i be able to use these handguards in a King Arms CASV Delta ring set?

July 24th, 2007, 03:00	#10
Drake E-01 Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Montreal, QC	Gah, the more I read the more confused I'm getting. Want to spell out exactly what you have for a gun, etc. Cuz so far the only part I'm clear on is that the new handguard is CA. And offhand, yeah, generally speaking for the ARs, CA seems to be the odd man out for cross-compatibility. __________________

July 24th, 2007, 10:22	#11
Dracheous Lego Head Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Gatineau, that's right I'm in QUEBEC!	er... so its a small pin in the delta ring thats not letting it sit? Ever think of cutting material from the hand guard to let it get in? __________________ _________________________________ "The hydrogen economy car from the people who brought you the 'Hindenburg'" - Glen Foster Condoms do not guarantee safe sex any more. A friend of mine wore one and was shot by the woman's husband!

July 15th, 2007, 13:01	#2
m15a4master Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: mt. clemens Michigan	is the gun a classic army

July 15th, 2007, 14:23	#5
insanegame Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007	Wow. Totally my bad. I guess my mind skipped reading handguard.. Sorry.

July 15th, 2007, 23:14	#6
DarkAngel * Age Verifier status suspended * Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Scarborough	The gun is not CA, I was under the assumption that all handguards were the same :s I bought the handguards seperately NIB. It just doesnt fit. If i buy a King Arms CASV, would the CA Handguards fit?

July 19th, 2007, 22:55	#7
m15a4master Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: mt. clemens Michigan	they should are they too long or what

July 24th, 2007, 02:46	#9
DarkAngel * Age Verifier status suspended * Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Scarborough	Nono, im not using an commando or a CQB length outer barrel. Its an M4 Length Barrel with a RIS Unit. The handguards I bought are also for an M4 but the RIS unit has a funny pin on the 12 and 6 positions of the delta ring. These two pins which lock the delta ring set together (with the spring inside) wont allow the handguards to fit into place because they are inside the groove where the handguard is supposed to fit /\|_i_\|\ The groove inside the delta ring looks kinda like that. The i being the locking pin that holds the delta ring together with the spring inside Also the Handguards are a little too big for the RIS unit. they are about 1/2 - 1 cm too large for the current RIS setup. Im REALLY hoping the KA CASV will allow it to fit else i ordered a brand new handguard for no reason T.T

July 25th, 2007, 01:41	#12
DarkAngel * Age Verifier status suspended * Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Scarborough	I was thinking of cutting it. But im replacing it with a KA CASV set, and im hoping that itll fit without modifications to the delta ring set. If it doesnt fit, i wanna be able to sell it to someone who can use it. I just wanted to be able to strip a Rail system off due to the weight for certain scenarios.

July 25th, 2007, 01:51	#13
NachoPuddin Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lethbridge,AB	i had a similar problem. Just ended up cutting it, and the hand guard was a little to short, so a think lay of electrical tape around outer barrel where HG touches and then just taping it to the gun. A little ugly, but only noticable if you look real real close. Just waiting to buy and R.I.S for it __________________ The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing."-Albert Einstein

July 25th, 2007, 12:19	#14
Jar\|-\|ead Banned Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2005	Some CASV has different delta rings

July 25th, 2007, 17:14	#15
DarkAngel * Age Verifier status suspended * Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Scarborough	Which ones? KA?

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