Full Auto Glocks, GBB Essentials?

[Kingpin665]

I'm loving the style that the Glocks have and have been quite impressed with what I've seen at games, and am really interested in getting one with full auto capabilities. Now I am quite new to Airsoft so bare with me please, but I'm looking for a decent GBB pistol and my research thus far has given me some insight as to what I should get. KSC seems to be making a rather nice Glock, but the KSC G26C that I've been reading about sounds fantastic but the compact size kills it for me being so small for my hand. I was hoping for a Glock 18c, but the only one I've managed to hunt down is the Tokyo Marui G18C AEP (Fixed Slide), I not only don't want an AEP due to the fact that its not as powerful as the GBB counter part, but it has a fixed slide.

My question is if anyone could recomend a GBB Glock with Full Auto capabilities that isn't a compact version. And because I bought half my accessories for my AEG TM M4A1 and after found out they were cheap crap could someone please point me to where I might find all the things I would need to use my GBB pistol. I noticed a few ppl with what looked to be mini propane tanks in a pouch on their vest that they used to refill the mags with gas, what would that be called and is there anything else I should be looking for? Aaahhhh newbies are like crying babies... no one likes them, but if I could get a little help without being told how stupid and new I am, that would be great :P. Thanks guys.

[thephenom]

KSC mades a G18c GBB, I have one, good gun, but I don't use it in full auto much at all. 23 rounds goes by way too quick on full auto.

I loved it for a while until I got myself a full metal berreta.

[666]

1. Get 18C or 23F, both by KSC. Get metal slide and barrel if you want to use propane. High flow valve/recoil spring upgrade might also be a good idea.
Also, keep in mind that full auto will wear internal parts a lot faster than semi auto fire. My 23F started having all sorts of wear related problems after excessive full auto use.
2. All accessories/upgrades can be found on this board. Check ASCA or Illusion's thread in classifieds.
3. Those mini propane tanks are probably fake distraction devices "grenades" made by GB-Tech.

[odp]

I would recommend a large wallet - seen countless KSC Glock18C's advertised here that don't function that well.

[ILLusion]

The G23F has the same heavy weight metal embedded polymer lower frame that the G19 has. It feels much beefier than the G18C.

[Kingpin665]

Beefy is good. I'd be using the glock in semi auto for 90% of the time, the full auto capability is more a novelty then anything. I would get the metal upgrades (as I'm planning with my M4 aswell) when the plastic starts to give me ANY sign of trouble, no sence putting out the money in the beginning if I don't have to... I still have a lot of gear to get. But KSC is definitely the brand to stick with for the Glock GBBs? And I will try to find this thread in the classifieds you mentioned 666, I'll post my troubles if I can't find it but thanks so far guys.

I have seen a few full auto glocks used...and its neat at 1st, but they run thru gas so fast and they dont keep their ROF through the whole mag.
pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop,,, pop, pop, ,,,,, pop, ,,,,,,,, pop, ,,,,,,,,,, pop, ,,,,,,,,,,,, pop, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, pop, fizzzzzzzzzel

[mirage13]

That's rather odd... my KSC 26C always makes it through the entire magazine without "fizzle"ing out slowly, then burping the remainder of propane...

Of course, I insure a full mag fill with a -warm- mag. (Not one that's been intentially heated, but also not one that was filled 2.3 seconds ago...)

As well, the fact that it's full-auto doesn't force you to press and hold the trigger 'till all the BBs fire (obviously!)... You can simply use it in bursts, which is nice... I usually get about 5 or 6 bursts from my 20 round mag on fullauto.

Sure double-tapping would be similar, but FA is more fun

[Dirty Deeds]

Here is my KSC G18C in full auto (just filled and fired in the last 10 sec, room temp 26.8*C).

23 rnds non stop:
http://media.putfile.com/G18C-23-rnds

49 rnds non stop:
http://media.putfile.com/G18C-49-rnds

man, i so hate AC/DC

[Pliskin]

Right at the end of that firing you could hear it slow down, or I'm just going insane.

The glocks are good investments and look good to play with, but there is always the TM M1911A1 to buy.

[Kingpin665]

Originally Posted by Dirty Deeds

Here is my KSC G18C in full auto (just filled and fired in the last 10 sec, room temp 26.8*C).

23 rnds non stop:
http://media.putfile.com/G18C-23-rnds

49 rnds non stop:
http://media.putfile.com/G18C-49-rnds

SOLD! I love Glocks, and that just looks bad ass guy.

[Dirty Deeds]

Originally Posted by Droc

man, i so hate AC/DC

YEAHYEAH.....untill you're at the strip joint, and she's in-your-face while "You Shook Me All Night Long" is playing, then they're your favorite band in the wold.

However, they could be playing Mary Poppins, and it would still be the best band in the world, at that moment.

Originally Posted by Kingpin665

SOLD! I love Glocks, and that just looks bad ass guy.

Glad you liked it.

[BloodSport]

First Pistol I bought was the KSC G23f and its still is one of my most used guns.

I have 3 standard mags and 2 extended 50rd mags for it, and have since upgraded to a metal slide, and guarder recoil spring.

No problems with running out of gas as long as I fill it properly and dont rush like in the middle of a firefight. On full auto the standard mags empty was to quick, and a 50rd long mag takes about 11 seconds to empty on full burst (just as fast as a teammates Mac11 ).

I also clean and oil it after every game, but its kept her running smooth for 2 years now.

I also have a KSC G17, and one of those TM G18c AEP (tried it out for winter play).

If your thinking of the AEP route here's what I found with mine:
- range is not that great (about 1/2 of my GBB)
- rate of fire is pretty decent, but the small popping noise of it running is unnerving and odd when compared to a BGG
- buy at least 2 extra batteries cause they last maybe 2 mags (batteries are like $25 to $35)
- mags are cheap $15 to $25, long mags are available $30 to $45
-feels extremely light.....

[hattrick]

Originally Posted by ILLusion

The G23F has the same heavy weight metal embedded polymer lower frame that the G19 has. It feels much beefier than the G18C.

but isnt the 23f that much more prone to breaking than the 18c as well?