Guarder Elcan?

Hakken · August 8th, 2006, 04:53

Been looking for info on this but haven't found any, seems like a nice price tho but was wondering how it was and all that.

PTE. Pyle · August 8th, 2006, 05:00

do a search there was a verry good review of it a while ago. personally i would go with the samurai elcan. i like the look alot beter.

Hakken · August 8th, 2006, 05:07

On here? I've searched but found no reviews

PTE. Pyle · August 8th, 2006, 05:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hakken

On here? I've searched but found no reviews

sorry your right. I found the search for the samurai elcan though. try google.

arnies might have a review as well.

Hakken · August 8th, 2006, 05:21

Yea theres info on the Samurai Elcan, just not a whole lot for the Guarder really anywhere.

PTE. Pyle · August 8th, 2006, 05:44

to be compleetly honoust with you the gaurder looks like ass. in my opinion. if you want high quality looks the samurai looks identicial to the real thing. gaurders looks decent from the side.

stokes · August 8th, 2006, 05:57

It also has the ulgy trade on it ELKAN......

PTE. Pyle · August 8th, 2006, 05:59

that and the front looks like shit. looks like somone beat it with the ugly ass bat

Goldman · August 8th, 2006, 11:30

The reticle on the gaurder one is ACOG style, and I find a bit too thin to really be useful.

MMMiles! · August 8th, 2006, 11:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by PTE. Pyle

that and the front looks like shit. looks like somone beat it with the ugly ass bat

Quote:

Originally Posted by stokes

It also has the ulgy trade on it ELKAN......

http://www.ascarmoury.com/popup_imag...ID=246&image=0

It doesn't have ELKAN trades on it (anymore?)
Optics quality is very average, I would still use it if I wanted the look, but there are better scopes if you're going for performance.

*shameless plug for awesome scope - sorry about no pic yet*
http://www.ascarmoury.com/product_in...roducts_id=451

stokes · August 8th, 2006, 13:07

Awww no pics... How does that scope look like miles? REally interested!

*Nevermind got it! :cheers:

Hakken · August 8th, 2006, 13:33

Hmm maybe I'll just pay the few extra $ and grab a Samurai instead, any places to get them tho?

Phalanix · August 8th, 2006, 15:42

Alternative to the Samurai is the Happy Triger's "Elane" replica. It's got a pretty good build quality and the reticle is better than the Samurai's. It's also got green/red illumination if you want. Only downside compared to the Samurai version is that the eye relief isn't as long, and the optics aren't as bright/clear. But it's not bad either.

longshot · August 8th, 2006, 16:20

I am an owner of a Guarder Elcan scope…a month ago I had the chance of testing this scope in a game at the F.R. field. Mounted the scope on my TM Sig552, as I sold my M-4 RIS a few months back. The scope weights in at 650 grams, adjusting the windage from left to right by turning the screw at the front clockwise. Elevation can be adjusted by turning the big wheel just below the scope, turning the wheel forward will lower the cross hair.
HonestJohn is right about the optical quality of this scope…being average, especially when you have to pay around two hundred $$$ for it. The problem with the optic of this scope is that it has a thin cross hair with a thicker line on the bottom for as reticle. I adjusted the cross hair so as to aim at the target on top of the thicker hair just below the thin line. Target acquisition is probably slower than other aimpoint or rifle scopes that I have handled. Also if you have to zero in on a target for a prolong period of time, you will definitively feel the eye ‘string’. Also the 4X magnification cannot be adjusted so that means …no zoom in or zoom out.
One confirm kill was registered during the game at around 120ft out. The subject was inside a house and I only had his arm and shoulder to work on. But this kind of result can be achieve by using the good old iron sight…no need to pop open the champagne yet!!
Other hits were made at different range with mixed results; therefore the usefulness of this scope is somewhat inconclusive.
The one big plus about this product is that by watching so many of our troops deployed oversea carries an Elcan scope on their C7/C8, is nice to have one as a airsoft replica.
I’ll give a five out of ten to this Guarder product.

Hakken · August 8th, 2006, 18:50

Hmm looks like Im gonna be getting a Samurai or a real steel one if I can acutally find it...

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August 8th, 2006, 04:53	#1
Hakken Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Winnipeg, MB	Guarder Elcan? Been looking for info on this but haven't found any, seems like a nice price tho but was wondering how it was and all that.

August 8th, 2006, 05:00	#2
PTE. Pyle Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: delta B.C.	do a search there was a verry good review of it a while ago. personally i would go with the samurai elcan. i like the look alot beter. __________________ To live is to Die

August 8th, 2006, 05:44	#6
PTE. Pyle Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: delta B.C.	to be compleetly honoust with you the gaurder looks like ass. in my opinion. if you want high quality looks the samurai looks identicial to the real thing. gaurders looks decent from the side. __________________ To live is to Die

August 8th, 2006, 05:07	#3
Hakken Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Winnipeg, MB	On here? I've searched but found no reviews

August 8th, 2006, 05:21	#5
Hakken Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Winnipeg, MB	Yea theres info on the Samurai Elcan, just not a whole lot for the Guarder really anywhere.

August 8th, 2006, 05:57	#7
stokes Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Toronto	It also has the ulgy trade on it ELKAN......

August 8th, 2006, 05:59	#8
PTE. Pyle Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: delta B.C.	that and the front looks like shit. looks like somone beat it with the ugly ass bat __________________ To live is to Die

August 8th, 2006, 11:30	#9
Goldman Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto	The reticle on the gaurder one is ACOG style, and I find a bit too thin to really be useful. __________________ Maybe you'll find someone else to help you. Maybe black mesa... THAT WAS A JOKE, ha ha, fat chance. My Buy/Sell 1337ness rating

August 8th, 2006, 13:07	#11
stokes Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Toronto	Awww no pics... How does that scope look like miles? REally interested! *Nevermind got it! :cheers:

August 8th, 2006, 13:33	#12
Hakken Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Winnipeg, MB	Hmm maybe I'll just pay the few extra $ and grab a Samurai instead, any places to get them tho?

August 8th, 2006, 15:42	#13
Phalanix raaaaawrrr! Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: GTA	Alternative to the Samurai is the Happy Triger's "Elane" replica. It's got a pretty good build quality and the reticle is better than the Samurai's. It's also got green/red illumination if you want. Only downside compared to the Samurai version is that the eye relief isn't as long, and the optics aren't as bright/clear. But it's not bad either. __________________ My ASC UserID is 666. Oh, great...

August 8th, 2006, 16:20	#14
longshot Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2003	I am an owner of a Guarder Elcan scope…a month ago I had the chance of testing this scope in a game at the F.R. field. Mounted the scope on my TM Sig552, as I sold my M-4 RIS a few months back. The scope weights in at 650 grams, adjusting the windage from left to right by turning the screw at the front clockwise. Elevation can be adjusted by turning the big wheel just below the scope, turning the wheel forward will lower the cross hair. HonestJohn is right about the optical quality of this scope…being average, especially when you have to pay around two hundred $$$ for it. The problem with the optic of this scope is that it has a thin cross hair with a thicker line on the bottom for as reticle. I adjusted the cross hair so as to aim at the target on top of the thicker hair just below the thin line. Target acquisition is probably slower than other aimpoint or rifle scopes that I have handled. Also if you have to zero in on a target for a prolong period of time, you will definitively feel the eye ‘string’. Also the 4X magnification cannot be adjusted so that means …no zoom in or zoom out. One confirm kill was registered during the game at around 120ft out. The subject was inside a house and I only had his arm and shoulder to work on. But this kind of result can be achieve by using the good old iron sight…no need to pop open the champagne yet!! Other hits were made at different range with mixed results; therefore the usefulness of this scope is somewhat inconclusive. The one big plus about this product is that by watching so many of our troops deployed oversea carries an Elcan scope on their C7/C8, is nice to have one as a airsoft replica. I’ll give a five out of ten to this Guarder product.

August 8th, 2006, 18:50	#15
Hakken Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Winnipeg, MB	Hmm looks like Im gonna be getting a Samurai or a real steel one if I can acutally find it...

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