Hi-Capa 4.3

[Pollock]

Looks like WE Tech released a 4.3 hi-capa (all metal of course). I'll leave it for you to drool over.

[manchovie]

hooray! more taiwanese bullshit for people to waste their money on! every we i've seen has been a steaming pile of crap. the finish and weight is nice, but the internals are all SLIGHTLY different from tm dimensions so aftermarket stuff doesnt work, the slide is FAR too heavy for the gas system, the mags hold barely enough gas to fire off 20 rounds, and you have to shoot slow because of the tremendous cooldown. one way they've sorta fought this is by adding a super weak recoil spring (easier for the gun to blow back) which gives the gun a bit of an impotent action. it's so weak that i was able to rack the 3.8 hicapa just by thrusting it backwards then forwards ULTIMATE ONE HANDING RACK! dont kid yourself, it's not a feature. oh and dont even try to upgrade the recoil spring as then you MIGHT be able to squeeze off 15 rounds before running out of gas or being too cooldowned to even fire anymore, and that's if youre lucky.
do yourselves a favor and buy tm instead. they at least engineered it, and know it works. we just copied tm (poorly) and slapped on a lead-alloy slide that the mechanism wasnt designed to push.

[Identity]

Originally Posted by manchovie

hooray! more taiwanese bullshit for people to waste their money on! every we i've seen has been a steaming pile of crap. the finish and weight is nice, but the internals are all SLIGHTLY different from tm dimensions so aftermarket stuff doesnt work, the slide is FAR too heavy for the gas system, the mags hold barely enough gas to fire off 20 rounds, and you have to shoot slow because of the tremendous cooldown. one way they've sorta fought this is by adding a super weak recoil spring (easier for the gun to blow back) which gives the gun a bit of an impotent action. it's so weak that i was able to rack the 3.8 hicapa just by thrusting it backwards then forwards ULTIMATE ONE HANDING RACK! dont kid yourself, it's not a feature. oh and dont even try to upgrade the recoil spring as then you MIGHT be able to squeeze off 15 rounds before running out of gas or being too cooldowned to even fire anymore, and that's if youre lucky.
do yourselves a favor and buy tm instead. they at least engineered it, and know it works. we just copied tm (poorly) and slapped on a lead-alloy slide that the mechanism wasnt designed to push.

Acutally I fired a WE metal Gbb. Wow all I can say is that the recoil/blowback is VERY impressive!
For the price you can get a WE for, the blow back is just as good as a TM.
However, I do not know how it will compair with the Desert Eagle Hardkick from TM.

[666]

Bartek is bitching at WE Hi-Capa because he want's one but doesn't have any money Right Bartek?

[MadMax]

Actually he got to check out a sample we ordered to see if it was something worth carrying.

The slide lock does not reliably function. You can cock it one handed by making a sharp punching motion holding the grip. And there's a funny malfunction where the gun does not fire if the hammer starts decocked and you cock the hammer after replacing the mag. If you rack the slide that bit works ok.

The fill valve is of the single port style popular with KJW which does not assure consistent fill.

With so many niggling issues seen in only one sample it doesn't look like a great GBB to carry. The slide catch might be a random defect, but the hammer issue is a design problem. The mag fire valve has a smaller diameter than the TM design. Because of this, the firing pin does not reset properly (the problem goes away with TM mags). The fill valve is a design problem. Try filling a hot mag with a cold tank. The very heavy slide and impotent recoil spring is a design issue.

If you pull the slide back and ease it forward with the gun pointed upwards, the slide cannot fully return to battery as the slide is nearly as heavy as the preload in the recoil spring. Sliding friction eats up the rest of the force.

While the TM build is faithfully copied, the spirit of the design is not appreciated. There's a lot of subtlety that can be missed with a pair of vernier calipers and a willingness to cut corners.

[firemachine69]

Originally Posted by MadMax

Actually he got to check out a sample we ordered to see if it was something worth carrying.

The slide lock does not reliably function. You can cock it one handed by making a sharp punching motion holding the grip. And there's a funny malfunction where the gun does not fire if the hammer starts decocked and you cock the hammer after replacing the mag. If you rack the slide that bit works ok.

The fill valve is of the single port style popular with KJW which does not assure consistent fill.

With so many niggling issues seen in only one sample it doesn't look like a great GBB to carry. The slide catch might be a random defect, but the hammer issue is a design problem. The mag fire valve has a smaller diameter than the TM design. Because of this, the firing pin does not reset properly (the problem goes away with TM mags). The fill valve is a design problem. Try filling a hot mag with a cold tank. The very heavy slide and impotent recoil spring is a design issue.

If you pull the slide back and ease it forward with the gun pointed upwards, the slide cannot fully return to battery as the slide is nearly as heavy as the preload in the recoil spring. Sliding friction eats up the rest of the force.

While the TM build is faithfully copied, the spirit of the design is not appreciated. There's a lot of subtlety that can be missed with a pair of vernier calipers and a willingness to cut corners.

As per a real 1911, you'll always "start" off with hammer down. You need to actually put one in the tube, simply cocking the hammer will not function on a real-steel 1911 either. So, in that respect, yes, it actually is closer to a real 1911ish design. My 5.1 was a very nicely built piece, in respect to the price it fetched.

Only true problem I saw was the ambi-safe is pretty loose (so loc-tite, but never open again), and the grip safety had an abnormally high rate of not functioning off the production line.

[manchovie]

Originally Posted by 666

Bartek is bitching at WE Hi-Capa because he want's one but doesn't have any money Right Bartek?

i used to have one, and now i've got two tm's (one metal 5.1 and a 4.3).

as for the kick, it's "impressive" in terms of the actual force of the moving slide but the fact that it moves so slow and returns so impotently greatly takes away from any kind of joy the force may bring. a stock tm gun may not rock your arm as hard, but the action is crazy fast and the blowback is satisfying (i'm talking propane here).

[Groombug]

Originally Posted by Identity

Acutally I fired a WE metal Gbb. Wow all I can say is that the recoil/blowback is VERY impressive!
For the price you can get a WE for, the blow back is just as good as a TM.
However, I do not know how it will compair with the Desert Eagle Hardkick from TM.

Yeah, the first three or four shots may feel great, but then cooldown kicks in and it becomes a sluggish mule. How many rounds does the magazine hold? It doesn't matter, because the gas will ghey itself way before then.

"Blowback" is not simply how much the kick roxxors your wrist. It's also about crispness, return speed to battery, and consistency from shot 1 to shot empty.

For the price you get a WE for, it's a complete jip. I'd rather save my pennies and eat cup noodles, and get TM.

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by firemachine69

As per a real 1911, you'll always "start" off with hammer down. You need to actually put one in the tube, simply cocking the hammer will not function on a real-steel 1911 either. So, in that respect, yes, it actually is closer to a real 1911ish design. My 5.1 was a very nicely built piece, in respect to the price it fetched.

Only true problem I saw was the ambi-safe is pretty loose (so loc-tite, but never open again), and the grip safety had an abnormally high rate of not functioning off the production line.

Well, it is possible to decock a 1911 hammer and just keep a round breeched too. Draw the GBB and cock the hammer one handed in a game.

The safety cannot be secured with loctite but you could probably crazy glue it in place if you didn't want to ever activate the safety. I note that it isn't too lose on the sample though.

[Oz]

Originally Posted by Groombug

I'd rather save my pennies and eat cup noodles, and get TM.

+1... I've never had a good feeling with any of the WE's I've handled..

Theres more to a gun than "OMFGWTFBBQ!!!111!!123*@ F-M-Joo yo!"

Originally Posted by Identity

Acutally I fired a WE metal Gbb. Wow all I can say is that the recoil/blowback is VERY impressive!
For the price you can get a WE for, the blow back is just as good as a TM.
However, I do not know how it will compair with the Desert Eagle Hardkick from TM.

the WE dragons are susposed to shoot better because of the lighter, smaller slide, but the full slides are too heavy.

But are you comparing the blowback to what? compared to a plastic GBB?

I have the TM hicapa and it has a monsterous kick, its a goddam cannon. Not many quality GBBs kick anything like the TM does...and from what I hear, having the WE hicapa struggle to kickback its mega heavy slide is dissapointing.

[The Saint]

It's weird, some people have reported no cool down problems when rapid firing their WE, while I can't recreate the one-hand cock (though I have a Dragon instead of the normal Hi-Capa). These are some pretty inconsistent guns.

[attack-beaver]

yeah the WE's from my under standing are like the G&G's of the GBB's some are good and others are not every review on the gun that i've seems to be combating another one the WE's are cheap yes but some aren't that good.

like i now 2 people with WE's 5.1 and had problems with the gun till he fixed it then it was a work horse well my other friends WE worked great out of the box with no problem aside from the grip safety witch is a east fix from what i've been told as well.