Opinions needed for TM SIG Sauer P226 vs TM HI-Capa..

Gameman · May 11th, 2006, 15:18

i've done some seach and read reviews on both guns, well..but i admit not much, the P226 is a newer gun with a newer blow-back system but on my search i still find the Hi-Capa's power are still stronger than the P266...i really wanted a gun that could go thought both sides of a Coke can with green gas, but i liked the design of the P266 better even its less powerful..
CAN YOU GUYS THAT OWNS OR HAD TRIED BOTH GUNS GIVE ME SOME OPINIONS.. and i just want a Toyko Mauri :salute:

ILLusion · May 11th, 2006, 15:32

get the one you like. I have both and they are both great guns. Performance is pretty much the same. It comes down to what style you like better.

The Hi-Capa has *slightly* higher velocity due to it's slightly longer inner barrel. The difference is not significant enough to use that as a point of purchase though.

Greykin · May 11th, 2006, 16:29

I guess it just comes down to which one has the appearance you like more? It seems like there is more aftermarket parts for the highcapa's though.

Captain Tenneal · May 11th, 2006, 17:48

Yeah, Its basically up to a preference.. I find the P226 fits much nicer in my hand, and the decocker is fun to play with for hours on end, but the HiCapa has a larger magazine, far more upgrade parts, and has a slightly better 'kick' to it.

Both are pretty powerful on propane, and both work with it stock.

Keep in mind that magazines for the 5.1 are a bit long and you may have a bit of trouble fitting them into standard pistol pouches.. 4.3 is no problem however, same with the P226.

I picked the P226 mainly because it's a gun that not many people have (vs. the flooded market of 1911/2011/glock/beretta guns)

Trader rating · May 11th, 2006, 22:47

hicapa. I find the kick more beasty and accuracy/range slightly nicer. More meaner looking gun.

Man Solo · May 11th, 2006, 23:45

I think you should get whichever one is heavier in case you have to smack a bitch.

I like the highcapa 4.3 best.

rat · May 11th, 2006, 23:51

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Originally Posted by Man Solo

I think you should get whichever one is heavier in case you have to smack a bitch.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Gameman · May 12th, 2006, 00:52

thx for all your feed-backs guys :cheers:

but i'm still wondering if the p226 can shoot thought both sides of a coke can?? Judging by the numbers in Redwolf.com its still weak, but i find some times the numbers are wrong too...So is the p226 just strong enough to punch thought two sides of a Coke can??
i still likes the looks of the P226, but is the blow-back feeling not feel any good??
i still need more opinion...i'm still on the p226's side more but i'll just not get it if it can't even punch though the can.

Mantelope · May 12th, 2006, 00:55

You probably wouldn't be able to tell the differences in performance between the Hicapa and the 226 without the use of a chrono. Even then, their ranges are practically identical. Stock, I'd say the blowback is also about the same, but I haven't fired them side-by-side to actually get a reasonable comparison.

Kokanee · May 12th, 2006, 01:19

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Originally Posted by Gameman

but i'm still wondering if the p226 can shoot thought both sides of a coke can?? ...So is the p226 just strong enough to punch thought two sides of a Coke can??...i'm still on the p226's side more but i'll just not get it if it can't even punch though the can.

Why are you so fixated on this completely useless benchmark? Many people have offered excellent opinions on the two models you were interested in - take their advice and use it measure any reviews you read, then make a choice.

Keep in mind if you are close enough for a pistol kill, you really don't want it to be souped up shooting an insane FPS. Your fixation on fps alone is a dangerous attitude and is likely to get someone injured.

MadMax · May 12th, 2006, 01:26

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Originally Posted by Kokanee

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gameman

but i'm still wondering if the p226 can shoot thought both sides of a coke can?? ...So is the p226 just strong enough to punch thought two sides of a Coke can??...i'm still on the p226's side more but i'll just not get it if it can't even punch though the can.

Why are you so fixated on this completely useless benchmark? Many people have offered excellent opinions on the two models you were interested in - take their advice and use it measure any reviews you read, then make a choice.

Keep in mind if you are close enough for a pistol kill, you really don't want it to be souped up shooting an insane FPS. Your fixation on fps alone is a dangerous attitude and is likely to get someone injured.

I think he works for Pepsi. They still keep trying, but they still can't punch thru Coke's market.

From an ergonomics standpoint, some prefer the P226's rounded grip in opposition to the more rectangular (in cross section) Hicapa, but it's still a personal pref held by some (some prefer the hicapa grip).

From a strictly mechanical standpoint, I would think that the Hicapa would be more reliable. It has a lower parts count and does not have the complication of the decocker or double action mechanism. The Hicapa has a more modular mechanical build. You can get into the hammer spring without disassembling the trigger or sear group.

If your into gunsmithing super short and light tweaked out triggers the Hicapa has a lot more room for that than the P226. If you're into double action triggers, the Sig is for you.

Just like in the real world, different pistols have different features with preferences which appeal to sections of the pistol market which is why there hasn't been a complete migration to a single gun type. Asking "wat am bestest gun" is as valid in the real steel market as it is in the airsoft replica market. The some of the justifications are just different.

Gameman · May 12th, 2006, 01:56

^^you sounded like i'm a little kid that just wants to hurt people with a stronger gun... :sad: (to: Kokanee)

MadMax, your informations is very help-ful..as always..but btw, what do you mean by double action triggers??
and by decocker or double action mechanism, do you mean is not right to cock the slide on the gun when you make the first shoot??

i forgot to note that i'm only using it for targeting pratice in my basement and no more.
i really want a good a solid blow-back feeling which for me is = a gun that is strong enough to pucnch though the can. It seems that the P226 is too weak for that, but i thought the Hi-Capa was able too...so i'm just abit confessed now and need more feed-backs.
"The feeling is more important to me"
and my stand point of the feeling is though the Coke can, without mod-ing it.

Captain Tenneal · May 12th, 2006, 04:45

Double action = You do not need to have the hammer in the fully cocked position to fire the gun. The P226 trigger will pull the hammer to the rear and release it, whereas the trigger on the Hi-Capa only releases the hammer if it's in the full back position.

Basically think of it this way, when you pull the trigger on the P226, it'll go Click Click Click and the hammer will move, whereas if you pull the trigger on the Hi-Capa (which is single action), nothing will move except the trigger.

I found my P226 fires straight 300 FPS dead on with .2's on propane at slightly cooler than room temperature, so it should be enough to puncture some coke cans.

If you're just gonna be doing some target shooting in the basement, I highly recomend pellet guns. Not only are they cheaper, they have no drift and you'll be able to penetrate a can. Crosman has a nice 1911 replica that's about a quarter of the price of a WA, and if you really want blowback, they have a CO2 PPK...

Gameman · May 12th, 2006, 06:31

thx for the recomendation Captain but i already owned a CO2 pellet guns which i bought half a year ago so now i've decided to move on and now try a TM gbb...

i've just done some more search on the two guns and i find that for extensive use of green gas for the Hi-Capa will cos a common problem with the 0-ring to keep on blowing off and theres this pistin hard problem i don't really understand but it kinda seems that the P226 will stand better with green gas, is this really true????
is seems to me that the P226 was green ready out of the box..

i'm still wonder how bad is the o-ring problem with the TM Hi-Cap 5.1..??
i was ready to go with the Hi-Capa for its slight better hard kick, fps, and the more better weight
(which such bring a better feeling of kick also)

:!: a note for all the guys on this topic: :!:
i'm very sorry for all these posting and questions, every one here seems to be really helpful but i need to place a hold for one of these guns by tomorrow so i really need my answers quick with less time of search. I need one of these by Monday so i really don't wanna go wrong with my choose..and i knew they only had one P226 in-stock left so i had to pick the right one by then.

CDN_Stalker · May 12th, 2006, 09:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gameman

thx for all your feed-backs guys :cheers:

but i'm still wondering if the p226 can shoot thought both sides of a coke can?? Judging by the numbers in Redwolf.com its still weak, but i find some times the numbers are wrong too...So is the p226 just strong enough to punch thought two sides of a Coke can??
i still likes the looks of the P226, but is the blow-back feeling not feel any good??
i still need more opinion...i'm still on the p226's side more but i'll just not get it if it can't even punch though the can.

Depends on the ammo weight you use. Lighter, higher fps, not likely or as well. Heavier ammo, like 0.30g, yes you can, even from farther away than 6 inches.

Not a lot of point in "can killing power" though, should base it on range (do it past 100ft is impressive with a GBB) and ability to hit a mansized target more times than miss it. What I've seen, both loaded with 0.25g are pretty damn good, go a bit higher weight (0.28 or 0.30g) and scary will be an apt description for the range and accuracy.

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May 11th, 2006, 15:18	#1
Gameman Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada	Opinions needed for TM SIG Sauer P226 vs TM HI-Capa.. i've done some seach and read reviews on both guns, well..but i admit not much, the P226 is a newer gun with a newer blow-back system but on my search i still find the Hi-Capa's power are still stronger than the P266...i really wanted a gun that could go thought both sides of a Coke can with green gas, but i liked the design of the P266 better even its less powerful.. CAN YOU GUYS THAT OWNS OR HAD TRIED BOTH GUNS GIVE ME SOME OPINIONS.. and i just want a Toyko Mauri :salute:

May 11th, 2006, 15:32	#2
ILLusion GBB Whisperer Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto	get the one you like. I have both and they are both great guns. Performance is pretty much the same. It comes down to what style you like better. The Hi-Capa has slightly higher velocity due to it's slightly longer inner barrel. The difference is not significant enough to use that as a point of purchase though. __________________ *Advanced Airsoft Armaments and Enhancements* Quick to the gun, sure of your grip. Quick to the threat, sure of your shot. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas Accuracy, Power, Speed

May 11th, 2006, 16:29	#3
Greykin Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: GTA	I guess it just comes down to which one has the appearance you like more? It seems like there is more aftermarket parts for the highcapa's though. __________________

May 11th, 2006, 17:48	#4
Captain Tenneal Formerly Muffinman Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba	Yeah, Its basically up to a preference.. I find the P226 fits much nicer in my hand, and the decocker is fun to play with for hours on end, but the HiCapa has a larger magazine, far more upgrade parts, and has a slightly better 'kick' to it. Both are pretty powerful on propane, and both work with it stock. Keep in mind that magazines for the 5.1 are a bit long and you may have a bit of trouble fitting them into standard pistol pouches.. 4.3 is no problem however, same with the P226. I picked the P226 mainly because it's a gun that not many people have (vs. the flooded market of 1911/2011/glock/beretta guns) __________________

May 11th, 2006, 22:47	#5
Droc Guest Trader rating	hicapa. I find the kick more beasty and accuracy/range slightly nicer. More meaner looking gun.

May 11th, 2006, 23:45	#6
Man Solo Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Toronto	I think you should get whichever one is heavier in case you have to smack a bitch. I like the highcapa 4.3 best. __________________ Paying also sufficent attention to third personell.

May 12th, 2006, 00:52	#8
Gameman Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada	thx for all your feed-backs guys :cheers: but i'm still wondering if the p226 can shoot thought both sides of a coke can?? Judging by the numbers in Redwolf.com its still weak, but i find some times the numbers are wrong too...So is the p226 just strong enough to punch thought two sides of a Coke can?? i still likes the looks of the P226, but is the blow-back feeling not feel any good?? i still need more opinion...i'm still on the p226's side more but i'll just not get it if it can't even punch though the can.

May 12th, 2006, 00:55	#9
Mantelope Scotty aka harleyb Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto, Ontario	You probably wouldn't be able to tell the differences in performance between the Hicapa and the 226 without the use of a chrono. Even then, their ranges are practically identical. Stock, I'd say the blowback is also about the same, but I haven't fired them side-by-side to actually get a reasonable comparison.

May 12th, 2006, 01:56	#12
Gameman Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada	^^you sounded like i'm a little kid that just wants to hurt people with a stronger gun... :sad: (to: Kokanee) MadMax, your informations is very help-ful..as always..but btw, what do you mean by double action triggers?? and by decocker or double action mechanism, do you mean is not right to cock the slide on the gun when you make the first shoot?? i forgot to note that i'm only using it for targeting pratice in my basement and no more. i really want a good a solid blow-back feeling which for me is = a gun that is strong enough to pucnch though the can. It seems that the P226 is too weak for that, but i thought the Hi-Capa was able too...so i'm just abit confessed now and need more feed-backs. "The feeling is more important to me" and my stand point of the feeling is though the Coke can, without mod-ing it.

May 12th, 2006, 04:45	#13
Captain Tenneal Formerly Muffinman Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba	Double action = You do not need to have the hammer in the fully cocked position to fire the gun. The P226 trigger will pull the hammer to the rear and release it, whereas the trigger on the Hi-Capa only releases the hammer if it's in the full back position. Basically think of it this way, when you pull the trigger on the P226, it'll go Click Click Click and the hammer will move, whereas if you pull the trigger on the Hi-Capa (which is single action), nothing will move except the trigger. I found my P226 fires straight 300 FPS dead on with .2's on propane at slightly cooler than room temperature, so it should be enough to puncture some coke cans. If you're just gonna be doing some target shooting in the basement, I highly recomend pellet guns. Not only are they cheaper, they have no drift and you'll be able to penetrate a can. Crosman has a nice 1911 replica that's about a quarter of the price of a WA, and if you really want blowback, they have a CO2 PPK... __________________

May 12th, 2006, 06:31	#14
Gameman Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada	thx for the recomendation Captain but i already owned a CO2 pellet guns which i bought half a year ago so now i've decided to move on and now try a TM gbb... i've just done some more search on the two guns and i find that for extensive use of green gas for the Hi-Capa will cos a common problem with the 0-ring to keep on blowing off and theres this pistin hard problem i don't really understand but it kinda seems that the P226 will stand better with green gas, is this really true???? is seems to me that the P226 was green ready out of the box.. i'm still wonder how bad is the o-ring problem with the TM Hi-Cap 5.1..?? i was ready to go with the Hi-Capa for its slight better hard kick, fps, and the more better weight (which such bring a better feeling of kick also) :!: a note for all the guys on this topic: :!: i'm very sorry for all these posting and questions, every one here seems to be really helpful but i need to place a hold for one of these guns by tomorrow so i really need my answers quick with less time of search. I need one of these by Monday so i really don't wanna go wrong with my choose..and i knew they only had one P226 in-stock left so i had to pick the right one by then.

Opinions needed for TM SIG Sauer P226 vs TM HI-Capa..

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