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May 8th, 2006, 23:23 | #1 | |
Yet another GBB lubrication question
I'm still on a quest to find the best spray lube for both the metal and plastic composite parts in Glock GBB's. The only Silicone-based lubricant I could find in a spray form was Tri-Flow with Teflon. All the other silicone lubricants contained either acetone or petroleum distillates (bad, I'm assuming?).
Is this stuff decent for guns? It says it's recommended for hand guns right on the bottle, but I was wondering if anyone else on the forums has used this product? Thoughts before I spray it on my gun?
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May 9th, 2006, 01:54 | #2 |
have you tried ics silicone spray?
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May 9th, 2006, 02:06 | #3 | ||
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May 9th, 2006, 02:34 | #4 |
Try Airsplat.com they sell ICS silicone lubricants for close to 9 bucks a pop, and since its in the states they wont burn you that much on shipping.
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May 9th, 2006, 02:46 | #5 | ||
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May 10th, 2006, 01:29 | #6 | |
I'm not normally a bump-er, but...help.
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May 10th, 2006, 07:13 | #7 |
What is wrong with silicone oil? No additives, no problems.
You forget another detail; products available in the US under some brand name may not be available elsewhere. So dont ask for brand names but ask for types of lubricants instead. And I just gave you the answer that works for all. |
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May 10th, 2006, 12:13 | #8 | ||
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However, you are absolutely correct about silicone oil: it is the best for lubing a GBB. The only problem is that, in the states, the equivalent of Canadian Tire is a store called Westlake Hardware. They have over 10 different types of spray silicone oil alone, but none are 100% silicone. Don't ask me why the labels read (and I quote) "Pure Silicone Oil" or "100% Silicone Lube" when they have additives. They all have some form of acetone or petroleum derivative in the ingredients list. But I'm guessing no one is familiar with Tri-Flow - I will have to do some research on it, as I'm sure it's widely available in Canada as well. If it's safe to use, it's probably just as good as silicone oil. I will post my findings in a couple days. Anyway, if someone would like to give me any brand name that they are positive is 100% pure, undiluted spray silicone oil, I would be grateful. :salute:
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May 10th, 2006, 12:26 | #9 |
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The only thing I recommend for pneumatics is pure light weight silicone oil. Aerosol silicone oils typically contain some sort of solvent carrier which may or may not be compatible with your GBB. 10wt silicone shock oil from your local r/c car store is ok. I carry 1.5wt oil which is a bit thicker than water:
http://www.ascarmoury.com/product_in...roducts_id=345 For slide-rail lubrication, I find a very light application of SuperLube teflon based grease works very well. It's avail' at Can' Tire. Remove all dirt and sand from your slide rails and slide grooves with a toothbrush and a lot of wiping with paper tissue. Apply some dabs of grease and action your slide several times. Wipe away the grease with a tissue to leave a very fine film which does not accumulate sand. Do not lubricate sears as they experience very high contact pressure at the sear-hammer point. Adhering any sand or wear particles would accelerate wear. Since the contact is usually stop start (pointy part loaded against surface for awhile) most grease or oil films end up squishing to nothing anyways (the high contact pressure breaks the film) so you only provide goop to stick to sand. If there is anything that works on a sear-hammer contact I would guess that graphite might. Colloidial graphite can also be purchased from CanTire in the locks section. Graphite smears out into a solid film which is completely dry. However, it is messy as it's basically pencil lead with no clay. You should clean up your gun or you'll be transferring black all over the place.
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May 10th, 2006, 15:59 | #10 | |
Just looked up Tri-Flow's components list: it contains both petroleum and assorted solvents. Thanks for your advice guys, it helps a lot.
MadMax: You mention not to lubricate "sears" - what exactly are these? Thanks!
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May 10th, 2006, 16:20 | #11 |
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The thing that catches/holds/releases the hammer.
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May 10th, 2006, 16:31 | #12 | ||
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May 10th, 2006, 18:06 | #13 |
If you lubricate it, you may get a machine gun.
You can find silicone oil in hobby shops or places where they sell the better grades of remote controlled toys. I'm sure there are some stores like that someplace near you. |
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May 10th, 2006, 18:08 | #14 | ||
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But sorry, maybe I should have clarified - I already have silicone oil. I'm just looking for it in a spray form.
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May 10th, 2006, 18:12 | #15 |
Most sprays will use petroleum distillates or other such things as the propellant.
For a GBB, all you need is a small drop on each slide rail, on the magazine's valves, and mixed into the gas. Nowhere else. |
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