Hooray for Classic Army AGAIN! New G3/SG1 and AR-10

Gryphon · February 20th, 2006, 23:33

New G3/SG1 based on the Schwaben Arms SAR Offizier M41:

New Armalite AR-10! (see very bottom gun, you can make out the 'Rifle 7.62mm' markings on the receiver)

vondnik · February 20th, 2006, 23:37

Boring...... and once again CA delivers nothing new.. how impressinve...but how expected...Hopefully this one will work out of the box...

The Saint · February 20th, 2006, 23:46

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Originally Posted by vondnik

Boring...... and once again CA delivers nothing new.. how impressinve...but how expected...Hopefully this one will work out of the box...

On the one hand, it's a little sad that CA is not putting out something more original. The CA33E was a hopeful step, and I certainly appreciated the G36E/KE, the CAK and the upcoming M41 (huzzar for stock metal bodies and uprated internals), but I'd really like to see CA produce something that isn't a variant of something TM or someone else has done. I'm sure there's a market for the FAL in Europe, for example. Then again, most of the really mainline rifles have been produced by someone, so can't really fault CA if they go with improving an existing line. Who's up for a metal FAMAS?

And I wish someone would tell me when the G3 and M41 is coming out!

Edit: Actually, we know that CA has experience in spring and gas rifles. Let's see them make an Enfield, I bet that'd be hella popular.

[Lithium] · February 21st, 2006, 00:03

Youre right saint, individuality is key. You can make different versions too which make it special compared to the rest. for example, as you mentioned one with upgraded internals. Enfields as you staed oo would be very awesome.. something id buy just for display, not actual use.

A metal famas would be great1 even better if they could put in a version 1 or 3 gearbox, but i dont know if thats possible based on teh design.

Gryphon · February 21st, 2006, 00:15

An Enfield would be a lukewarm seller at best. The primary market for such a rifle is about to have a ban placed on the importation and sale of such guns. The idea behind the SG1 is obviously to appeal to those who want the TM gun but don't want the cheap, plasticy, creak-o-matic feel you get with it.

The AR-10 is hardly regurgitated. Last time I checked only G&P made a 7.62mm AR-based rifle which cost about as much as a CA M249.

The Saint · February 21st, 2006, 00:20

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Originally Posted by W.K.Shuridys

An Enfield would be a lukewarm seller at best. The primary market for such a rifle is about to have a ban placed on the importation and sale of such guns.

Hope lies eternal in the human heart. Gooo Brits, we are all praying for you guy. :sad:

Canadian Psycho · February 21st, 2006, 00:21

someone should make a new G3A3, a metal famas, and a FAL

Amgoosen · February 21st, 2006, 00:24

yes we definatly need a new G3A3

Gryphon · February 21st, 2006, 00:27

I agree 110% on the FAL. I'm literally stunned no one's made any. There's been a few one-off customs and a VERY short production run by UN Company, but nothing serious. Maybe I'll get my importer to put a word in.

Regarding a new G3A3, get a slim forearm and regular buttstock and swap them on the G3/SG1. Instant G3A3. Or, perhaps CA has thought of that and will offer it as a variation of their G3 line. First an MC51-sized gun, then the SG1... Not a stretch to think they'll do it themselves.

Amgoosen · February 21st, 2006, 00:36

does anyone know why TM stopped making em in the first place?

attack-beaver · February 21st, 2006, 00:46

any ideas on price for the G3-SG1 cause if i can i would sell my TM SG1 for CA full metal SG1 cause i bet it would be cheaper then going FMU on a TM.

now it would be nice if it came with a R.I.S to.

Aaidin · February 21st, 2006, 00:56

What's the bottom gun in the top picture? It looks like it has the same mags as the CA33E.

attack-beaver · February 21st, 2006, 00:57

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Originally Posted by Aaidin

What's the bottom gun in the top picture? It looks like it has the same mags as the CA33E.

its a CA MC51.

lt_poncho · February 21st, 2006, 01:28

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Originally Posted by W.K.Shuridys

I agree 110% on the FAL. I'm literally stunned no one's made any. There's been a few one-off customs and a VERY short production run by UN Company, but nothing serious. Maybe I'll get my importer to put a word in.

JAC made the FN FAL L1A1 back in 1983 or 84', pretty sure it was around then, before semi auto came out with the M16A1. In any case, it was a poor seller, and the gun itself internally was not as good as they had hoped (most retailers at the time told me that it wasnt worth my money). Poor performance issues I believe.

In light of that most Japanese manufacturers decided not to continue or even consider making FAL molds, especially after molds got incrementally expensive. Why make a 100 FAL's that no one will buy.

Gryphon · February 21st, 2006, 01:34

Oh yeah, forgot to mention that the latest price list from CA lists a CA53, sans price.

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February 20th, 2006, 23:33	#1
Gryphon Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MB	Hooray for Classic Army AGAIN! New G3/SG1 and AR-10 New G3/SG1 based on the Schwaben Arms SAR Offizier M41: New Armalite AR-10! (see very bottom gun, you can make out the 'Rifle 7.62mm' markings on the receiver)

February 20th, 2006, 23:37	#2
vondnik Ban-Fu Sifu Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Socialist republic of Kebekistan	Boring...... and once again CA delivers nothing new.. how impressinve...but how expected...Hopefully this one will work out of the box... __________________ Vondnik, team Bad Karma, PQAC Murphy's second rule: Nothing is impossible for the man who does not have to do it himself.

February 21st, 2006, 00:03	#4
[Lithium] Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Vancouver	Youre right saint, individuality is key. You can make different versions too which make it special compared to the rest. for example, as you mentioned one with upgraded internals. Enfields as you staed oo would be very awesome.. something id buy just for display, not actual use. A metal famas would be great1 even better if they could put in a version 1 or 3 gearbox, but i dont know if thats possible based on teh design. __________________ HeL is another name i go by

February 21st, 2006, 00:15	#5
Gryphon Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MB	An Enfield would be a lukewarm seller at best. The primary market for such a rifle is about to have a ban placed on the importation and sale of such guns. The idea behind the SG1 is obviously to appeal to those who want the TM gun but don't want the cheap, plasticy, creak-o-matic feel you get with it. The AR-10 is hardly regurgitated. Last time I checked only G&P made a 7.62mm AR-based rifle which cost about as much as a CA M249.

February 21st, 2006, 00:21	#7
Canadian Psycho Personal Mule.....PM for rates! Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Alberta	someone should make a new G3A3, a metal famas, and a FAL __________________ "Those who have long enjoyed such privileges as we enjoy, forget in time that men have died to win them" Franklin D. Roosevelt

February 21st, 2006, 00:27	#9
Gryphon Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MB	I agree 110% on the FAL. I'm literally stunned no one's made any. There's been a few one-off customs and a VERY short production run by UN Company, but nothing serious. Maybe I'll get my importer to put a word in. Regarding a new G3A3, get a slim forearm and regular buttstock and swap them on the G3/SG1. Instant G3A3. Or, perhaps CA has thought of that and will offer it as a variation of their G3 line. First an MC51-sized gun, then the SG1... Not a stretch to think they'll do it themselves.

February 21st, 2006, 00:46	#11
attack-beaver Trader rating Join Date: May 2005 Location: calgary	any ideas on price for the G3-SG1 cause if i can i would sell my TM SG1 for CA full metal SG1 cause i bet it would be cheaper then going FMU on a TM. now it would be nice if it came with a R.I.S to.

February 21st, 2006, 00:56	#12
Aaidin Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Abbotsford, BC	What's the bottom gun in the top picture? It looks like it has the same mags as the CA33E.

February 21st, 2006, 01:34	#15
Gryphon Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MB	Oh yeah, forgot to mention that the latest price list from CA lists a CA53, sans price.

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