P226 propane

[Nick_273]

i would like to know if propane works well with the TM P226 and in what form you would buy it. (nossel used etc.)

Edit: not really related, but since green gas is cheaper from US retailers, are you able to ship that over the boarder or is it the same issue as with airsoft guns?

[Dustball]

Stick with duster in TM guns, unless you get a metal slide.

[Nick_273]

this would be my first airsoft gun so could i ask what a "duster" is? Also, why would a metal slide make a difference to wether i can use a metal slide or not?

[Lord Jebus]

Duster is the stuff that comes in a can and you use to blow dust out out sthings like your key board. Compared to Propane it is not as strong, so the forces on the slide when it cycles are less. Sometimes propane will cause a plastic slide to crack. But I haven't heard of anyone with a cracked slide from using propane on the TM226

[Nick_273]

OK, thanks for that Lord Jebus. Is duster expensive in comperison to green gas or propane and how would you fill it into the piston (some sort of adapter?)?

[Lord Jebus]

Look it up at FutureShop or something. Maybe Costco. I've never bought it. Never needed to. I sell it at Lordco but can't remember how much we sell it for. Look around

[Xenos-Fear]

I use propane at everygame on Samuel Paintball every 2 weeks and I got no problem at all. No breaking slide or malfonction after. Used propane since this summer. Never got any trouble ! You can use this.

Except, don't use it at very hot temperature or in very cold time ! High difference of Temperature will cause a break on your GBB.

Ok that's a risk, but when it breaks, just think it's gonna be the perfect timing to change for Metal ! Hehehe...

[shea_115]

Hey you can get duster gas from staples business depot. I got some today and tryed it in my Berreta and I found that it sucks propane is the way to go. Also you can get the multi adapter butane cans at Home Hardware for filling your mages with Duster gas like shown on this website.

http://qphreak.iwarp.com/airsoft/butane.htm

I know some people where asking where to get the adapters. Also using one of the adapters that come with the butane you can refill the butane cans with propain. But you need to make an adapter that will fit on the end of a propain torch. I will post detailed pics later this week when i fined out an easy way to make the adapter. you can also get rilly small butane cans with the same adapter that is used on the green gas cans at Canadian tire and they can be refilled with propane for use in the field. And there easy to carry around in your webbing.

[CDN_Stalker]

Originally Posted by shea_115

Hey you can get duster gas from staples business depot. I got some today and tryed it in my Berreta and I found that it sucks propane is the way to go. Also you can get the multi adapter butane cans at Home Hardware for filling your mages with Duster gas like shown on this website.

http://qphreak.iwarp.com/airsoft/butane.htm

I know some people where asking where to get the adapters. Also using one of the adapters that come with the butane you can refill the butane cans with propain. But you need to make an adapter that will fit on the end of a propain torch. I will post detailed pics later this week when i fined out an easy way to make the adapter. you can also get rilly small butane cans with the same adapter that is used on the green gas cans at Canadian tire and they can be refilled with propane for use in the field. And there easy to carry around in your webbing.

The stuff you bought from Staples is the weak duster. It's the diflorouethane crap, lower pressure than good duster (134a Tetrafloroethane). Check out some of the smaller computer stores, and also Future Shop has Fellowe's, but Best Buy has the same crappy diflouroethane crap that Staples does, just a different name.

To find out what is in the can, look at the warnings/treatment section ont he back of the can, it'll say if it's Di............ crap, Tetra.......... good.

Nick, as far as your question about propane goes, Airsoft Innovations Propane Adaptor is what you need, and while you might spend $40 for one, buying $4 bottles of propane at Canadian Tire will save you the hassles of dealing with green gas (same stuff as propane) while giving you many dozens of mag fills more for a fraction of the pirce per can of green gas. In your TM P226, a few guys up here run their P226s off propane and no problems at all. Use your own judgement for now, answers will always vary on ASC regarding stock guns and propane. Case in point, they tend to say the same thing for any stock GBB, but my stock KSC G19 and stock KSC M11 both have thousands of shots using propane through them, and not a sign of wear, cracks or anything with them. Others will post that their/a friend's stock plastic slide GBB cracked within 100rds.

There you go, all the info you need to make your own decision based upon your use and financial position. And not one flame or condescending remark at all.

[JT_10111]

You can use Propane in most guns rated for 134a, Green Gas, or other AS brand 'Low-pressure' gas. Although some pistols and such might require some small modifications, beacuse Propane has a slightly higher OP.


e.g. on some pistols, 134a AS gas might run it at about 220 or 230, then with propane it might go to about 260 - 280. Not a huge difference, but some cheap plastic pistols might break after awhile of use(UHC). While some may have a drastic fps dif. like 210 to 386(check the Tanaka M629, lol).

(note:after maybe 2-3 months a cheap UHC pistol might crack)

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/?filn...ter_review.htm

here you'll find a few tests of different gasses, and information on each's performance, and many other interesting AS Gas tidbits.


You can get a cheap $20 adapter from Airsoft Innovations, and use it on regular $3.00 propane BBQ tanks.

Hope this helps.

[BloodSport]

I've been running Propane in my P226 since I got it from Tru on his first order, I have also done just about every internal upgrade you can think of to make it shoot harder, farther, and more accurate. After about 6 months I finally broke on remaining internal stock piece which is made out of plastic, the valve stopper due to the impact. They make a metal version of it but every retailer/supplier is sold out of it. Although if you leave it stock, everyone else local that I know is running fine still on Propane after all these months.

[SINN]

Most of the places I have been (staples, future shop) only have the newer versions of the Duster with the "Di-crap".

Walmart sells "Fellowes" in the yellow can, but you have to dig around and find the older ones that actually have "Tetrafluoroethan" in it. They sell for $6.99 for a Net Wt. 10 oz. can.

Zellers sells "Belkin - The Blaster" which also has "Tetrafluoroethan" in it but it costs $10.95 for a Net Wt. 12 oz. can.

Keep lookin around...it's out there!

[Greykin]

Originally Posted by SINN

Most of the places I have been (staples, future shop) only have the newer versions of the Duster with the "Di-crap".

Walmart sells "Fellowes" in the yellow can, but you have to dig around and find the older ones that actually have "Tetrafluoroethan" in it. They sell for $6.99 for a Net Wt. 10 oz. can.

Zellers sells "Belkin - The Blaster" which also has "Tetrafluoroethan" in it but it costs $10.95 for a Net Wt. 12 oz. can.

Keep lookin around...it's out there!

That's weird, I just bought a 10 oz. yellow can of Fellowes a few days ago, and it says that it contains difluoroethane, not tetrafluoroenthan". I bought mine from Canadian Tire though, it was $3 more.

[SINN]

Yeah, my wife called me on her cell phone because she found the "yellow" can but they all said "dif" in them. Then she reached in the back and pulled one out that looked like an older package and believe it or not, it was the "Tetra" one!

The "dif" cans has it worded in super small print in the "do not use over this temp" warning paragraph. The "Tetra" can has it printed in red letters in a different spot.

It is obviously the older version that still contains the "tetra" because the .pdf file on the website warns of it!...crazy...

Fellowes PDF

[thorvald]

Originally Posted by wiseowl

After about 6 months I finally broke on remaining internal stock piece which is made out of plastic, the valve stopper due to the impact. They make a metal version of it but every retailer/supplier is sold out of it.

Which make was that valve stopper? I can't seem to find a listing anywhere.

There is one made by Hidakaya for the G26 and the M92F however. The G26 one looks very close to the P226.

Didn't Illusion find out that all internals of the P226 are compatible with the Hi-Capa 5.1? Can't remember now.

I'm actually waiting for a metal part #53.