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Old January 3rd, 2006, 07:04   #1
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Hi,
It seems I can't just make up my mind about which gun to pick. I started looking at KJW m700(gas), then turned to an HFC sniper(was cheaper, gas), next TM M16A2(AEG, but I already have 2 AEGS-counter sniper G3SG1 and TM H&K G36c) and now looking to VSR10 G-Spec or VSR 10 Black. Is it worth it to get the GSpec or the black version? Compared to APS-2, TYPE96 which are way more expensive than VSR10z(spring), doble at least stock. In general referring to range, accuracy and weight of BBz to be used for G-spec(spring)?
Where should I get it?....from Rangers(where I got my TM G36c, aegx), or a VSR10 black version from 007airsoft. What parts are best to upgraded its
G-spec(PSS10, Sears) ?:tup:

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Old January 3rd, 2006, 07:19   #2
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You've been here since 2004, already have AEG guns, and have to ask this question?
Pick what works for you. If you want to keep the gun 'stock', it does not matter much.
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Old January 4th, 2006, 00:26   #3
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Greylocks,
What do you mean "it does not matter much"?
Not a lot of difference between stock and an upgraded Gspec with one Laylax M120SP spring? I've seen you told some people to shut up, but that was not nice. Just my point of view. If I do something wrong or if you tell me too, I'll shut up as well and stop posting. Not sure if I know you personally, but I have not been constantly into airsoft from 2004, broken foot in 2004, or had the time to post things just for the hell of it. Only posted when needed help or when I thought I could lend a hand to others.
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Old January 4th, 2006, 07:22   #4
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The way I read your question, you are asking about the difference between two VSR models. Your text is very confusing as it jumps from bolt guns to AEG. You had not mentioned upgrading right away in there.

The only difference is a few centimeters of barrel lenght, and you can read about it on most Retailers' websites. A stock Marui powered gun is about the same no matter what the model is.

If you are asking between a VSR and an AEG, go for another AEG. If it's between the VSR and an L96, I'd lean towards the L96.

If you are asking if a VSR is worth buying, I'd say it is. But like anything, nobody can decide for you.

If I totally did not get it, re-word your question.
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Old January 4th, 2006, 15:42   #5
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I wouldnt suggest doing any upgrades on sniper files in general, spare parts arent readily avaible like AEG's. if your looking into a sniper get a GAS, you dont have to upgrade and there the same price when you factor in spring upgrades.

The G-spec, from what ive seen there perform really well stock.
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Old January 4th, 2006, 15:49   #6
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My TM VSR10 G-spec shoots about 310fps out of the box and it's been consistent so far. I've had it for a few months and no problems so far... I've kept it stock internally. It's been used quite regularly.
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Old January 4th, 2006, 16:34   #7
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I wouldnt suggest doing any upgrades on sniper files in general, spare parts arent readily avaible like AEG's. if your looking into a sniper get a GAS, you dont have to upgrade and there the same price when you factor in spring upgrades.

The G-spec, from what ive seen there perform really well stock.
If you do it right, a spring sniper can be killer. I upgraded my VSR Pro Sniper to reliably shoot just shy of 500fps. There's lots of parts for the VSR series.
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Old January 5th, 2006, 03:47   #8
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kid_ding and others,
Using the silencer reaching 310fps or without it?
How heavy were the bbx .2 .3 .36 gg?
The bolt cycle easily or compared in a way with the spring; that's why it is hard to pull when G-spec it's updated?
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Old January 5th, 2006, 04:01   #9
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Hm, not sure what you mean there. When you first upgrade the spring ( I had a 170% spring in mine), it is hard to cycle the bolt. Once it sets in though, it's real easy. Practice and develop the right muscles, and it's lightning fast.
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Old January 5th, 2006, 07:30   #10
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In all spring bolt guns, the spring is compressed when the bolt is pulled back.
I dont understand what you mean, again. nic_s also does not understand. Hard? Nothing like a real gun.

Can you write your questions more clearly? Nobody can answer you when we have to guess what you mean.

Here's a tip; go to a local game and ask questions in person.
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Old January 5th, 2006, 21:38   #11
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Yes, obviously it's much harder to pull the bolt back once you have installed a more powerfull spring(not stock). I was at few local games, just talked to my dealer tonight and he said G-spec(spring) is alright, but M700(gas) is better.
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Old January 5th, 2006, 21:40   #12
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Of course your dealer knows better.
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Old January 5th, 2006, 22:01   #13
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Even with an upgraded spring I haven't had problems pulling back springs. Like Greylocks said you should try pulling a real gun.
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Old January 5th, 2006, 22:23   #14
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Decide for yourself which one is better, don't let your dealer decide. Gas guns come with a whole slew of problems that spring guns do not such as temperature and consistancy. Also if your gas gun is not adjustable it might be shooting too powerful on a regular summer day and you might not be able to take it on the field. Seals become a problem too depending on model. That said, Spring guns have their share of problems as does every other gun, I've found my VSR to be reliable and consistant. Never had any problems with it all season winter, or summer.

But like Nic said, it's difficult to cycle at first, but after a few tries and you get your technique down, it's easy, if you have the gun shouldered. And if you dont. scope goes into your face. :mrgreen:
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Old January 5th, 2006, 23:07   #15
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Personaly the biggest thing going to the VSR series is the hopup on the side of the barrel. HUGE feature for my and any one who has had to fiddle with a gas bolt in the morning and had the temp go up in the afternoon and it be off again. You can use a spring gun all year round, but gas gets finicky in any extreme all boyls law(i think) I think the VSR series is the best sniper out there currently but then again thats me. Nothing is going to make a round object 100% accurate at 200 yards so dont think your gonna be Tom Berrenger splitting hairs a mile away. Its all relative. Go out to a game and try a few guys guns and see for your self.
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