Mac11 - Skirmishable Primary ?

[Narwhal]

Hey, as I continue researching which gun I'd like to use, I keep getting drawn back to the idea of using an HFC Mac11 as a primary. It's fairly low cost, full auto, and with silencer, fairly accurate (supposedly). I realize I'd be lacking in the distance department, but would the firepower and compact size make up for it ?

Thanks.

[Kid]

Where exacly do you plan to play?
What's the field like?

Will you be willing to pay for duster and many mags?
Any consideration of KWA? For Propane purposes.

Remember that you need a few mags and it will only run on duster... and they're a real hose.

[Narwhal]

Hmm, I'd heard the run just fine off propane. Dang.

the KWA choice might be better, then.

As for field.. mostly just paintball fields, like FR, Sgt Splatters, etc.

[666]

It's ok for Splatters but outdoor fields is a different story. I'm pretty sure that any stock AEG will do a better job than M11 when it comes to outdoor games. Also, keep in mind that nodoby really plays at Splatters any more. I think this year there was only one game there, maybe two.
Think about it, you will need at least lets say 3-4 mags to play. Add that to a price of M11 and you will probably be close to an AEG. If you just want to play once in a while, get stock TM AEG with one hi-cap, battery and a charger.

[HGI]

With the M11 you'll be able to get around faster, easyer and more unseen than anyone with a rifle and 10+lowcaps straped all over them. The M11 are pritty loud and everyone will know it's you once you take one shot. I'd say go for it but be ready to have a differnt play style than everyone, you should also start saving money aside for a AEG because I'm sure you'll get tired of the M11's soon enough.

[Carvs]

I do not have much technical knowledge about airsoft, but I play at FR for paintball. Yes, paintball! Anyways, the idea of a mac 11 is a little hesitant on my part. It has its good sides (full auto, small size) but since you are only playing every so often go for a good TM AEG like everyone reccommended. Im looking at the new TM m4a1 Full metal, its brand new. Maybe you should look into it. The Mac 11 is definately a worthyable skrimishing sidearm but as a primary, go for something more reliable. I hope my 2 cents helps.

[attack-beaver]

i can see a mac11 has a primary back up but not as a primary.

[Cheesevillage]

Hmm you want a small, reliable gun and you're willing to accept lower accuracy at longer ranges? TM has this little magic gun which just MIGHT do the trick. They call it the MP5K. If you do go ahead and buy one I'm sure you'll be toying with the idea of buying some random armalite within a year, but at least you wont have to worry about your guns reliability.

I would personnaly suggest a slightly larger gun but if you do decide to go ahead with this heres a rough budget.

-1 Marui MP5 K $350 (from Tru) ( $329 at Canadian AS but it's not in stock)
-1 8.4 stick battery $29.85 @ Canadian AS (This is what the K takes, I think)
-2 G&P MP5 Midcaps $30 each (UN company - who orders from there again?)

Or just invest in a larger gun, but again thats more money.

-Cheese

[Carvs]

i agree, it does not have the same stats as an aeg (velocity, accuracy, ect.)

[DuffMan]

No one's mentioned ammo yet. The Mac-11 has a ridiculous ROF. The mags have very sensitive mechanisms that shoot out the white stuff upon the lightest touch, kinda like my dick after BMQ. That and they hold 50 rounds each. Do the math.

[Carvs]

Lol . I thought I mentioned that but after proofreading I guess I didnt. Ammo would go rather quickly throught that micro SMG. 50 rounds isnt enuf.

[Greylocks]

Carvs. I saw a MAC used as a primary only once.
Guy had one at an outdoors game, plus 2 mags or so. Each mag emptied in less than 3 seconds, he was out-ranged by everyone.
So he played for about 30 seconds (total) before he ran out of ammo and was shot.
He went back to his car in disgust and returned with an AK47. He then played all day with the AK.

To answer the original question; the best way to find out what is used in games and what works is to go see for yourself. You'll quickly understand that just a MAC or handguns will pretty much suck.

[Bob the Angry Potato]

Originally Posted by Narwhal

Hmm, I'd heard the run just fine off propane. Dang.

This IS HFC, a Taiwanese copy-company... perhaps it's adapted to use propane?

[CDN_Stalker]

Just get a KSC M11 if you want one, the mags are easy to get comapred to all other types of M11s out there. I have one, custom supressor that actually works and has the side benefit of increasing the fps by a fair bit, and I have yet to use it as a primary. Even if I can get upwards of 400fps out of it, the accuracy sucks past 70ft, and the mags are heavy and difficult to carry spares (since all mine seem to spew BBs out any time there is a slight bit of pressure on the top of the mag). Best to go for an MP5K type thing if you want a compact primary.

[Carvs]

EDIT: Since ppl took my advice wrong please let me re-word it. All of these people have good points to buy an AEG, personally I would too. If you would like the MAC11 as a sidearm or to plink, go for it.