Putting together a good MK23 SOCOM

[SoryuDragon]

Ok so I've read some reviews on the TM MK23 SOCOM. And I figure it's nice but I'm still unsure if I want to get the TM kit, or just put it all together from buying the pistol, Silencer, LAM seperate.
:kill:
I was thinking of the KSC H&K MK23 Socom Heavy Weight + G&G SOCOM Silencer L or G&G SOCOM Silencer S. Then try to find a LAM or second hand LAM. Plus a good Drop Leg Holster that can fit the whole kit. (Sam Fischer style)

:?:
Anybody have any good idea's or suggestions on how I can go about setting up this kit?
Any pros and Cons about the whole idea? I'm unsure those Silencers will even fit. Mayhaps a diff Manufacturer for the MK23.
That whole Drop Leg idea might not go as well.

Thnx in advance

Soryu...

[SockMonkey]

Not fimiliar with the blow back socoms but the TM NBB is very powerful and very acurate due to fact it doesnt blow back. Tough trigger pull un fortunately. As far as the lam on the TM one.... well... utter crap.. not worth the plastic its cast from.. if you can find a proper one more power to ya. Silencer on the NBB is sweet, really quiet, but i dont imagine it would help as much because on a GBB.

My 2 cents hope it helps some..

[Yuu]

Originally Posted by SoryuDragon

Ok so I've read some reviews on the TM MK23 SOCOM. And I figure it's nice but I'm still unsure if I want to get the TM kit, or just put it all together from buying the pistol, Silencer, LAM seperate.
:kill:
I was thinking of the KSC H&K MK23 Socom Heavy Weight + G&G SOCOM Silencer L or G&G SOCOM Silencer S. Then try to find a LAM or second hand LAM. Plus a good Drop Leg Holster that can fit the whole kit. (Sam Fischer style)

:?:
Anybody have any good idea's or suggestions on how I can go about setting up this kit?
Any pros and Cons about the whole idea? I'm unsure those Silencers will even fit. Mayhaps a diff Manufacturer for the MK23.
That whole Drop Leg idea might not go as well.

Thnx in advance

Soryu...

Prepare to blow a lot of cash if you buy KSC Mk.23. Currently i'm doing a full metal Mk.23 i'm at 600 mark with Shooter design metal slide and barrel, 3 mags and ksc silencer, and Guarder recoil spring and hammer. And now my gun is busted lol so I need to blow another cash for new mk23.

If you just want looks go for TM one.

[DuffMan]

Silencer's will fit, regardless of manufacturer as long as they are threaded for the 16mm threads on your Mk23 barrel (NOT 14mm).

As for the LAM unit...don't even bother. Even the aftermarket 'M97' is a piece of garbage. I'm surprised no-one has manufactured a replica of the real production Wilcox LAM unit rather than the crappy TM replica of the prototype.

Further, if you mount the TM LAM on it, good luck finding a holster to fit it. Even the holsters that are advertised as being designed to fit the Mk23 with a LAM are designed to fit the real production LAM which has considerably different dimensions. Also, holsters are usually not designed to fit the pistol AND the silencer, mostly because having the silencer extend that low on a thigh rig is very awkward.

A really good holster would be a Safariland 6004. You may be able to order it off some US sites like Optactical, but I think it's harder to come by the Mk23 ones than for another pistol. Viking had one for sale with his Mk23 package recently. If you want to hold the whole thing at once, there are a bunch of holsters designed specifically to hold the Mk23 and all its accessories, particularly by airsoft manufacturers like Guarder and MilForce.

[SockMonkey]

I had the mispex one it holds the gun with lam, 2mags and the silencer. Good holster though i found it moved alot on my leg. I havent tried any others so i dont know it i would have that problem with all drop-legs.

[RAS_Jackson]

The KSC MK23 inst cheap, as stated. As for TM non blow performace its AWSOME it shoots hard. You have the ask you self the question, are you going to skrimish with the gun. Reason why is again finding equipment like holsters to fit the lam are a hard find. Plus the MK23 will everything on it is one massive gun.

[CDN_Stalker]

I've shot the TM Mk23 NBB and it's pretty cool, and very quiet with the supressor on. Have more experience with the KSC Mk23, it's cool as well, but shooting it feels kinda 'floppy' because of the long slide travel and not a lot of kick. DID find something interesting about it though, the supressor Apoc has on his works well, can hear the slide clacking around though. BUT, it actually has a "silent mode"! Rack in a BB, drop the hammer down and shoot it double action. The gun shoots hard still, but the slide doesn't move, making for very quiet shots. Rack the slide again, drop the hammer for the next silent shot. Pretty cool eh?

And ya, big freaking gun!!!

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker

BUT, it actually has a "silent mode"! Rack in a BB, drop the hammer down and shoot it double action. The gun shoots hard still, but the slide doesn't move, making for very quiet shots. Rack the slide again, drop the hammer for the next silent shot. Pretty cool eh?

Apparently, the same feature exists on the real Mk23. You can lock the slide and fire, then manually rechamber a new round.

[CDN_Stalker]

Actually, that was in the early design, but they decided not to continue that on their latest production models. Will dig up the link.

http://www.hkpro.com/socom.htm

Early production diagram of the SOCOM pistol. Incorporated into this early prototype is the "Schieber," defined literally from the German as a "sliding safety." This is in actuality the slide lock that was dropped from the latest production models. The slide lock functioned to keep the slide from opening upon firing, which allowed the firer to retrieve the spent casing for added stealth, and added to the quietness of the fired shot by eliminating slide movement.

Thing being, I had no idea that the KSC Mk23 could do that, and those at the field that brought up the Mk23, I told them about it, they looked confused and said it shouldn't do that, or something must be broken, or whatever. And considering all that I've read about the KSC Mk23, never did I see a reference to it's existance.

[SEALs]

Yeah its a pretty neat function! Very silent with the silencer on. For the cycling, its normal that its weak even on the real deal its weak. The reason is simple, open the gun up, you see that the guide rod as 2 spring, one is the recoil spring and the other one is the damping spring which make a very weak but very precise shot. KSC has made a very realistic replica out the Socom by far the most realistic. The only part where you can see its not the real deal, its under the decocking lever where there is a hidden KSC logo beside that, you have to pull the trigger to see if its not the real deal (figure of speech)

[MrCool]

So, I wonder wht is the best set up for a KSC Mk23 ?
> guarder spring set
> shooter design slide ph.3
and ??
Anything that can make it work like a workhorse ?
hope to hear all of ur opinions =)

[Yuu]

Originally Posted by MrCool

So, I wonder wht is the best set up for a KSC Mk23 ?
> guarder spring set
> shooter design slide ph.3
and ??
Anything that can make it work like a workhorse ?
hope to hear all of ur opinions =)

Right now on my SOCOM I have Shooter Design Slide phase 3 and Guarder spring set. And I tell you these is all you need for awesome recoil with propane!

[SoryuDragon]

Thnx for all the info guys... Outstanding!

So I think I'll be going with the KSC H&K MK23 Socom Heavy Weight. And the 16mm thread SOCOM Silencer. As for the LAM, I thought about Modding out the standard TM LAM and give it a laser pointer. Just for something.

* Yuu said he's using internal parts for upgrading? Where can one aquire these parts? Are there better ones? I'm not worried about price.

In all I'm looking for quality, but at the same time when you go for that you should get the looks too. Again I do like the NBB design of the TM, but I think the whole BB design adds that extra realism.

Now the big question... Who has the better prices in Canada?
:razz:

Soryu...

[Berkut]

bump

Looking for same... can't find anywhere... ET needs help...

[Yuu]

Or you could buy mine whenever I post it up on Buy and Sale lol Completing brand new and this is my second one.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/gallery...age.php?i=2458