KJW Sig P226 vs TM Sig P226

Iceking007 · January 30th, 2018, 00:02

If anyone has handled these pistols side by side which of the two has a better exterior?

I've been persuaded to look at the KJWs instead of the KWC. But I've stumbled upon the TM variant and although I've heard rave reviews about their internals, I've been reading they skimp a little on the exterior (at least compared to some other brands). So I'm trying to get a grasp of how they compare since I won't be able to see them first hand for myself.

Thank you.

Drakker · January 30th, 2018, 06:53

TM has better internals and accurate full trades on its externals but the frame and slide are made of plastic. The plastic is not glossy like the KJW paint so it looks more realistic but once you have it in your hands you can feel the difference. With that said the TM is LOT more efficient with its plastic slide and more durable than the KJW. There's no question that the TM is the better gun, although both will need a valve striker replacement unless you get the newer E2. You get used pretty fast to the plastic externals and the ability to use it at lower temperatures is well worth it.

Styrak · January 30th, 2018, 11:37

The TM is the better gun. Which has better looks is personal preference.

Iceking007 · January 30th, 2018, 23:32

So the KJW is all metal exterior but has bad paint?

Can you upgrade the KJW to be as good as the TM, or can you get metal externals for the TM?

Danke · January 31st, 2018, 00:45

This used to be a TM.

Danke · January 31st, 2018, 00:51

All metal. But be warned they can be a pain to get right. This one was built for me by ILLusion.

Styrak · January 31st, 2018, 13:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceking007

Can you upgrade the KJW to be as good as the TM

That's questionable

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceking007

can you get metal externals for the TM?

Yes, but they perform best in stock configuration.

NAPavez96 · January 31st, 2018, 18:53

About the paint on KJW's, the newer generations have more of a matte finish than the older glossy one. Also, KJW P226's CAN be upgraded, as they are somewhat TM spec, but some modification might be needed. Honestly though, there isn't much I would do to a KJ one than a stronger recoil spring, and hop rubber. That said, TM will always perform the best with green gas/propane out of the box.

BioRage · January 31st, 2018, 19:50

Have you even held a TM? Yeah it's plastic but don't look like it!

Iceking007 · February 1st, 2018, 00:52

I haven't held any airsoft weapons... but feel is everything. My experience is real firearms and paintball markers (mostly all steel and solid). The experience I have is seeing the cheap plastic ones in Canadian Tire... and hearing the YouTube videos, I HATE the electric ones; sound like cheap toys to me rather than a "Replica Weapon"

Danke · February 1st, 2018, 02:09

No matter what 99.9% of the airsoft pistols out there won't feel like a real pistol. Most will be looking to achieve "looks real in the photo".

You'll have to decide what you want. If it's a desk/showpiece that you will never use or if you want to use it out in the field and have it hit what you're aiming at.

For taking to a game the TM will be tops. You can also use the TM to build a very nice looking pistol with some cash and with even more cash you can get a good looking 226 that you can also take to the field but that's not where you start out.

The KJW is aimed at someone who really really wants a full metal pistol and doesn't care if it doesn't look that great or work that great. Someone who might play for a season and loose interest and not feel bad about the funds spent.

Danke · February 1st, 2018, 02:27

This is the guy who built my 226.

http://www.pbase.com/illusive_airsoft/illusions_armory

I wound up getting this also while waiting for the 226.

http://www.pbase.com/illusive_airsoft/image/134605605

Iceking007 · February 1st, 2018, 08:25

Danke, would you say this is the honest truth for all airsoft including rifles?

If so then one should give up entirely on my interests in the sport and just purely buy the most accurate and reliable rifle one can find regardless of how it looks or feels.

Drakker · February 1st, 2018, 08:48

It all depends on your goals, the most accurate tool that will let you hit players at long range are not necessarily the most realistic feeling guns. On the other hand a nice full steel gas blowback rifle feels a lot more like a real gun, but they will never reach the precision of a professionally tuned AEG, especially in cold conditions. Doesn't mean you can't be an effective player with a GBB rifle, but you'll face a steeper learning curve.

JackMan250 · February 1st, 2018, 10:22

I do love my TM P226E2. I just wish the grip wasn't so wide (small hands over here). My friend has a KJW P226 and it is a night and day difference "feel-wise". I much prefer the feel of his gun in my hand

, but I still love my TM and it has NEVER had a jam or mis-feed yet.

My TM P226E2 is stock but I have ordered a guarder steel (threaded) outerbarrel so I can add my ACETECH lighter tracer unit to the end of it.

I would highly recommend the TM as well, but if you NEEEEED that "real steel feel", I would recommend the KJW P226. I don't think you'll be let down with either choice, but listen to the other more experienced users above, I can only give you my personal impressions of handling both. I use a BlackHawk! Serpa holster for my TM P226 and it fits like a glove (also worth checking out if you are yet to get a holster).

I hope that helps

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January 30th, 2018, 00:02	#1
Iceking007 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CYXD	KJW Sig P226 vs TM Sig P226 If anyone has handled these pistols side by side which of the two has a better exterior? I've been persuaded to look at the KJWs instead of the KWC. But I've stumbled upon the TM variant and although I've heard rave reviews about their internals, I've been reading they skimp a little on the exterior (at least compared to some other brands). So I'm trying to get a grasp of how they compare since I won't be able to see them first hand for myself. Thank you.

January 30th, 2018, 06:53	#2
Drakker Official ASC Geomorphologist Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Montr?al south shore, Qc	TM has better internals and accurate full trades on its externals but the frame and slide are made of plastic. The plastic is not glossy like the KJW paint so it looks more realistic but once you have it in your hands you can feel the difference. With that said the TM is LOT more efficient with its plastic slide and more durable than the KJW. There's no question that the TM is the better gun, although both will need a valve striker replacement unless you get the newer E2. You get used pretty fast to the plastic externals and the ability to use it at lower temperatures is well worth it. __________________ Keep quiet. Sound travels faster than BBs. Québec province's master age verification representative.

January 30th, 2018, 11:37	#3
Styrak Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Saskatoon, SK	The TM is the better gun. Which has better looks is personal preference. __________________ Airsoft Sales and Repair/Upgrade Services

January 30th, 2018, 23:32	#4
Iceking007 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CYXD	So the KJW is all metal exterior but has bad paint? Can you upgrade the KJW to be as good as the TM, or can you get metal externals for the TM?

January 31st, 2018, 00:45	#5
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	This used to be a TM. __________________ Airsoft, where nothing is hurt but feelings.

January 31st, 2018, 00:51	#6
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	All metal. But be warned they can be a pain to get right. This one was built for me by ILLusion. __________________ Airsoft, where nothing is hurt but feelings.

January 31st, 2018, 18:53	#8
NAPavez96 Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Calgary, AB	About the paint on KJW's, the newer generations have more of a matte finish than the older glossy one. Also, KJW P226's CAN be upgraded, as they are somewhat TM spec, but some modification might be needed. Honestly though, there isn't much I would do to a KJ one than a stronger recoil spring, and hop rubber. That said, TM will always perform the best with green gas/propane out of the box. __________________ Having nice guns isn't elitism... (G&P) Diemaco L119A1 10" CQB Carbine (G&P) Colt M727 (KJW) Diemaco C7A2

January 31st, 2018, 19:50	#9
BioRage Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Toronto	Have you even held a TM? Yeah it's plastic but don't look like it!

February 1st, 2018, 00:52	#10
Iceking007 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CYXD	I haven't held any airsoft weapons... but feel is everything. My experience is real firearms and paintball markers (mostly all steel and solid). The experience I have is seeing the cheap plastic ones in Canadian Tire... and hearing the YouTube videos, I HATE the electric ones; sound like cheap toys to me rather than a "Replica Weapon" Last edited by Iceking007; February 1st, 2018 at 00:53.. Reason: spelling correction

February 1st, 2018, 02:09	#11
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	No matter what 99.9% of the airsoft pistols out there won't feel like a real pistol. Most will be looking to achieve "looks real in the photo". You'll have to decide what you want. If it's a desk/showpiece that you will never use or if you want to use it out in the field and have it hit what you're aiming at. For taking to a game the TM will be tops. You can also use the TM to build a very nice looking pistol with some cash and with even more cash you can get a good looking 226 that you can also take to the field but that's not where you start out. The KJW is aimed at someone who really really wants a full metal pistol and doesn't care if it doesn't look that great or work that great. Someone who might play for a season and loose interest and not feel bad about the funds spent. __________________ Airsoft, where nothing is hurt but feelings.

February 1st, 2018, 02:27	#12
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	This is the guy who built my 226. http://www.pbase.com/illusive_airsoft/illusions_armory I wound up getting this also while waiting for the 226. http://www.pbase.com/illusive_airsoft/image/134605605 __________________ Airsoft, where nothing is hurt but feelings.

February 1st, 2018, 08:25	#13
Iceking007 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CYXD	Danke, would you say this is the honest truth for all airsoft including rifles? If so then one should give up entirely on my interests in the sport and just purely buy the most accurate and reliable rifle one can find regardless of how it looks or feels.

February 1st, 2018, 08:48	#14
Drakker Official ASC Geomorphologist Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Montr?al south shore, Qc	It all depends on your goals, the most accurate tool that will let you hit players at long range are not necessarily the most realistic feeling guns. On the other hand a nice full steel gas blowback rifle feels a lot more like a real gun, but they will never reach the precision of a professionally tuned AEG, especially in cold conditions. Doesn't mean you can't be an effective player with a GBB rifle, but you'll face a steeper learning curve. __________________ Keep quiet. Sound travels faster than BBs. Québec province's master age verification representative.

February 1st, 2018, 10:22	#15
JackMan250 Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Hamilton	I do love my TM P226E2. I just wish the grip wasn't so wide (small hands over here). My friend has a KJW P226 and it is a night and day difference "feel-wise". I much prefer the feel of his gun in my hand , but I still love my TM and it has NEVER had a jam or mis-feed yet. My TM P226E2 is stock but I have ordered a guarder steel (threaded) outerbarrel so I can add my ACETECH lighter tracer unit to the end of it. I would highly recommend the TM as well, but if you NEEEEED that "real steel feel", I would recommend the KJW P226. I don't think you'll be let down with either choice, but listen to the other more experienced users above, I can only give you my personal impressions of handling both. I use a BlackHawk! Serpa holster for my TM P226 and it fits like a glove (also worth checking out if you are yet to get a holster). I hope that helps

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