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Old January 30th, 2015, 20:59   #1
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best red dot for indoor/outdoor

Any good red-dot scopes for less than 100 that work indoor and out in full daylight? I found all my red-dots get washed in the sun.

thanks in advance.
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Old January 30th, 2015, 21:20   #2
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Red dots are terrible for target acquisition. Good for target shooting when you are standing still.

Anything less then 100 is relatively cheap for a sight that you want to not be washed out. Hurricane holographics, or a nice used 511-512 holosight (mind they will be 300) will work.

Regardless any red dot id advise against since you have to be perfectly centered behind the sight to be aiming correctly due to parallax.
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Old January 30th, 2015, 23:11   #3
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I had a red dot and found it utterly useless. I went back to good ol' iron sights. Airsoft isn't accurate enough from my limited experience to worry about optics other then the "Check out my cool shit" factor. Again, YMMV from mine.
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Old January 30th, 2015, 23:30   #4
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Get a decent red dot. Cheap real steel ones work fine outdoors, and don't get washed out by the sun or suffer from parallax issues.
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Old January 31st, 2015, 01:51   #5
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+1 Pesto.

Check out Primary Arms. They make good Red dots. They're great, especially if your gun shoots a little off. Being able to align your red dot sight to where the BB goes is pretty great. I love my Red dot.
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Old January 31st, 2015, 02:49   #6
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You don't really need them, but they are pretty fun to use.
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Old January 31st, 2015, 11:40   #7
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They are made for RS, so, they can stand recoil from gbbr easily
pretty popular in the states,good cheap option.
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Old January 31st, 2015, 12:14   #8
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Be aware most GBB pistols don't have the power to move the extra weight on the slide.

Real steel no parallax you can have your head anywhere and the dot moves with your eye stays on target. Vortex is the only brand I use in Airsoft. They're dots are not as good as Aimpoint however their glass is better in my opinion, their price is half and they have a no fault lifetime warrenty (yes bb shots and truck runovers).
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Old January 31st, 2015, 12:50   #9
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I have 3 different china made reflex sights. all work great in the sunlight. Also all of them work for target acquisition cause I know how to set the sight up and how to tune a gun so it's useful.

That being said, a reticle with a circle is going to be more useful than a dot. Airsoft, even well tuned will shoot a cone, to a certain extent so do real steel but you're talking about groupings in fractions of an in vs inches at airsoft ranges.

With a big circle that's properly zeroed on a sight that's both eyes open, you can just put the circle on target and your bbs will more than often land there... if you've zeroed it properly. The way I've done it is that at max effective range for my gun, where they start dropping out of the circle is balanced with the widest point of spread that my shots will make. That way anything closer than that I know will land in the circle reliably.

Beyond that if the guy doesn't fit in the circle I know my rounds will fall short and I need to start holding over, and I know immediately my rounds may be off line from the circle, so those shots are carried on the wings of little fairies and pixies.
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Old January 31st, 2015, 15:13   #10
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Get something with a tube, not an open "reflex" style. The open style are fragile and tend to get washed out quickly.

Just about any Aimpoint clone will work well. ML2, M4, micro, they all work well. Vortex is great on the higher side of low-end, or Halosun on the lower side of high-end so to speak.

Avoid any Eotech.

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Old January 31st, 2015, 15:43   #11
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I tried to order from Primary Arms before and they wouldn't ship to me cause I'm Canadian. So I tried shipping to a US address and I would go pick it up but they canceled my order cause I used a Canadian Visa.
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Old January 31st, 2015, 15:51   #12
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I tried to order from Primary Arms before and they wouldn't ship to me cause I'm Canadian. So I tried shipping to a US address and I would go pick it up but they canceled my order cause I used a Canadian Visa.
It's called ITAR. They CAN'T sell to you regardless of shipping address. There is a Canadian dealer for Holosun.

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Old February 11th, 2015, 16:49   #13
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Forget the clone and get an Aimpoint PRO. Sure it costs much as a high end AEG (~$500 after tax and shipping) but honestly, I spent more on crappy clone optics then the cost of the PRO just trying to find a decent one that didn't have major issues.

3 year always on battery life, NV capable if you choose to go that route down the road, absolutely bomb proof optic that comes with a mount included, and one that will retain resale value should you ever decide to part with it later. Could not recommend it any more highly, with bonus points if you're using it on a GBB or have opportunity to use it on real steel as well.
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Old February 11th, 2015, 17:01   #14
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Forget the clone and get an Aimpoint PRO. Sure it costs much as a high end AEG (~$500 after tax and shipping) but honestly, I spent more on crappy clone optics then the cost of the PRO just trying to find a decent one that didn't have major issues.

3 year always on battery life, NV capable if you choose to go that route down the road, absolutely bomb proof optic that comes with a mount included, and one that will retain resale value should you ever decide to part with it later. Could not recommend it any more highly, with bonus points if you're using it on a GBB or have opportunity to use it on real steel as well.
I had bought a second hand aimpoint pro on ASC, for $300. Bought a kill flash and cover for it, afterwards.

That things was FREAKING heavy! If I did it again I would of jut opt in for a T1, but why bother when holosun has their RDS.
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Old February 12th, 2015, 05:24   #15
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does anyone know if there's any primary arms dealer in the country?
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