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Old October 16th, 2005, 00:42   #1
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Feeding problem (ICS m4)

Hi all,
Today I tried Crosman .20 bbs (not realy proud but I received them as gift, so i decided to give them a try).
Since then my gun is blocking at every 10bbs and I have to Re-Wind the Mag...
I checked and the problem don't seem to come from the Mag, It is wind when i block but i have to over-wind it to fire again...
Seem to be an alimentation problem...
Maybe it's de bbs... but i've checked more and my loading muzzle (or what I take for a loading muzzle, the tube that take bullets from the mag) is damaged... Not enough to block the gun but, maybe it's the problem...

Do my problem is the damaged loading muzzle or that come from the Bbs?

Can I buy this part if its the problem? If yes, where?

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Old October 16th, 2005, 01:49   #2
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if you mean the loading nozzle inside the gun, where the hopup is, yes it can be replaced. As far as i know only ICS website has the item.
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Old October 16th, 2005, 12:49   #3
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Yep, this part :


Found on the ICS web site... but, I really don't know if it is possible to buy from there, if yes, how?

Ans is this really my problem?

Soon as possible I'll post photo of the damaged part...
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Old October 23rd, 2005, 12:11   #4
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I tried my gun again today...

And that's what I found :

In semi-auto, I can only shot 6 rounds before my gun block...
To deblock I have to get off the mag, put off the bbs that stayed in the gun, put the mag in and rewind it...

In full auto, I can shot like 20 or 30 rounds and it block...
In only have to rewind my mag and it work again...
I realized that in full auto, at the first dryfire after the block, my cylinder (it seems to be the cylinder...) is doing a louder sound, is this normal?

I think the problem are coming from the Loading Muzzle and from the Hop-Up...
Is this possible to put an TM hop-up in a ICS?
Is this easy?
Where can I buy a complete hop-up kit (including the muzzle) ?
For what price?

Thanks to the helpers!
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Old October 23rd, 2005, 12:35   #5
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You've got a ICS M4 I see, I am actually planning on picking one up within the next few weeks, if you don't mind I ask, how does it work with 3rd party magazines? Will they fit/feed alright? I am just asking because I see in a review that the magazines are smaller and only work in ICS guns, so I wonder how other magazines will work with it.
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Old October 23rd, 2005, 12:41   #6
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Hum...
I don't tried any third party mags on my ICS M4...
I have actually only two ICS HiCaps mag...
But I remeber have tried ICS HC on TM M4 and they work perfectly...
Personnaly, i'm sure that any tp mags will work with the ICS M4 but i didn't tried...

But for now...
I need someone to help me!
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Old October 23rd, 2005, 13:41   #7
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i use mags from g&p,classic army, tm, star and the stock ics mags. all work fine. as a rule never use cheap crappy bb's. you'll on ly pay for it it the end and it will cost you far more in repairs later than what it saves you now in bb's. i've read posts form other people who swear by walmart of crappy tire brands saying that "ive never had problems" or "only occasionally do i have a problem" but it's just dumb luck. spend the money to get proper bb's and you won't have an issue. but as far as a new loading nozzle, check with airsoft elite in the u.s. and see if they stock the part. you could try with the retailer who sold you the gun, but it's not a common part and you may have some trouble finding it. but stick to the stock ics part as they have a tendency to employ small enough differences in their parts to make them proprietary and not be interchangable with other brands.
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Old October 23rd, 2005, 14:06   #8
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I think I will try an Systema Metal Hop-Up kit...
You can see it on redwolf,
I hope it will fit...
Does anyone know if third party hop-up fits with ics guns?
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Old October 23rd, 2005, 14:11   #9
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very few third party parts fit ics guns. i've never had to rplace any hop parts yet, but their internal differnces in the mechbox don't give me alot of optimism. try airsoft elite in the u.s. they are the north american distributor for ics and do their own modded guns based on an ics gun. if anyone has the oe part they will and if anyone would know about hop compatability they would.
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Old October 26th, 2005, 23:02   #10
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Is there anyone who know if systema's metal hop-up set is compatible with ICS m4?
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Old October 26th, 2005, 23:12   #11
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please,,,,why dont you come to montreal and visit a gun doctor. i am not sure how much experience you have in airsoft, but at least these guys will be better able to assist you and solve your problem. i have a feeling the more you tinker with your m4 the worse it will get...physically and financially...
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Old October 26th, 2005, 23:42   #12
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no a tm or systema hop up will not fit in an ics gun. the reason being is they are 2 totaly differant designs. a systema hop up will not fit as well if you could make it fir the cylender will most likley not seat properly and thus the upper receiver will not close. i would recomend getting a ics replacement part you could call the company and ask if you cant find it on their sight. or you take a small round file and try to file the damaged part of the loading nozzle. also take the screw out on the bottom of the mag and remove the inner part of the mag spray everything with sillicone oil, then reassleble the mag. then 1 more thing to try would be to disassembel the hopup and look for any debris. make sure you pay attension so how to put it back together its a little tricky but if your mechanicly inclined then it should be ok.
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Old October 28th, 2005, 08:39   #13
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Thanks PTE, do you know any good website other than ICS or AE that sell ICS' replacement parts?
Possibly in canada...
Thanks!
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Old October 29th, 2005, 12:55   #14
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The Classic Army hop up don't work on it? (007 airsoft)
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Old October 29th, 2005, 20:43   #15
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i know no idea who would sell them im sure you could find one possibly redwolf airsoft
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