Airsoft Canada
http://triggerairsoft.com/shop/

Go Back   Airsoft Canada > Discussion > Doctor's Corner
Home Forums Register Gallery FAQ Calendar
Retailers Community News/Info International Retailers IRC Today's Posts

attack of the hot mosfet

:

Doctor's Corner

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old March 29th, 2014, 18:23   #1
Sloth
 
Sloth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Toronto
attack of the hot mosfet

Gates SSR pico gets real hot fast, powered by a Tenergy 11.1v 1000mah 20c battery.
The heatshrink gets goo-ey. Share your thoughts, is this normal?
too much power for it? Its 16ga silver wire + deans
__________________
"Too much Knowledge is Dangerous, not enough is Worse"
Sloth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 29th, 2014, 18:24   #2
pestobanana
Squid Porn Superstar, I love the tentacles!
 
pestobanana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Richmond Hill and Waterloo, Ontario
Might help to list your setup

Motor
Gears
Spring
pestobanana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 29th, 2014, 18:26   #3
Sloth
 
Sloth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Toronto
Quote:
Originally Posted by pestobanana View Post
Might help to list your setup

Motor
Gears
Spring
KWA stock motor pulling 18:1 on an m90
__________________
"Too much Knowledge is Dangerous, not enough is Worse"
Sloth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 29th, 2014, 18:35   #4
pestobanana
Squid Porn Superstar, I love the tentacles!
 
pestobanana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Richmond Hill and Waterloo, Ontario
That doesn't sound right.
What RoF are you getting, are you sure the shimming is right? Do you have a multimeter?
I've seen a few lemons and I ALWAYS get RoF drops when I use them, but I did run one to 39 RPS at 340 FPS without it getting warm.

I don't know a lot about electronics, maybe Stealth can chime in.
pestobanana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 29th, 2014, 18:53   #5
lurkingknight
"bb bukakke" KING!
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Ottawa
way too hot... you have some excessive current draw going on... I'd check the shimming. The pico fets shouldn't get that hot... on top of that, it shouldn't get hot enough to damage the heatshrink.
__________________
I futz with V2s, V3s and V6s. I could be wrong... but probably, most likely not, as far as I know.
lurkingknight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 30th, 2014, 02:00   #6
Sloth
 
Sloth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Toronto
Quote:
Originally Posted by pestobanana View Post
That doesn't sound right.
What RoF are you getting, are you sure the shimming is right? Do you have a multimeter?
I've seen a few lemons and I ALWAYS get RoF drops when I use them, but I did run one to 39 RPS at 340 FPS without it getting warm.

27 rps @ around 290fps. GBBR shimmed it. I've yet to pick up a multimeter
40rps and 340fps is what I'd like!
Here it comes, my trigger is a microswitch
__________________
"Too much Knowledge is Dangerous, not enough is Worse"
Sloth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 30th, 2014, 04:56   #7
Stealth
Mr. Silencer
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Toronto
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sloth View Post
27 rps @ around 290fps. GBBR shimmed it. I've yet to pick up a multimeter
40rps and 340fps is what I'd like!
Here it comes, my trigger is a microswitch
The PicoSSRs aren't made for microswitches and will burn out.

In fact, most Mosfets on the market aren't for microswitches.

For those interested in more technical reading: http://extreme-fire.com/Micro-Switch-Bounce.pdf

John

Last edited by Stealth; March 30th, 2014 at 04:59..
Stealth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 30th, 2014, 16:21   #8
Sloth
 
Sloth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Toronto
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealth View Post
The PicoSSRs aren't made for microswitches and will burn out.

In fact, most Mosfets on the market aren't for microswitches.
There Must be something compatible with Microswitches.
I really don't want to scrap a gun because of this
__________________
"Too much Knowledge is Dangerous, not enough is Worse"
Sloth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 30th, 2014, 16:47   #9
wind_comm
 
wind_comm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Calgary/Vancouver
extreme fire has a microswitch denouncer iirc but they're so bad why bother.
__________________
too busy tinkering to play.
wind_comm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 30th, 2014, 16:52   #10
ThunderCactus
Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture!
 
ThunderCactus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
the bouncing of the microswitch causes the mosfet to flip on and off very rapidly

You could try buying a much higher quality microswitch, I bet they're less than $8 lol
ThunderCactus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 30th, 2014, 17:05   #11
Sloth
 
Sloth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Toronto
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThunderCactus View Post
the bouncing of the microswitch causes the mosfet to flip on and off very rapidly

You could try buying a much higher quality microswitch, I bet they're less than $8 lol
Try and find a quality switch, it sounds so simple :P
This has been such a pain in my @$$ lol
__________________
"Too much Knowledge is Dangerous, not enough is Worse"
Sloth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 30th, 2014, 17:36   #12
ThunderCactus
Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture!
 
ThunderCactus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
yeah well, next time don't buy a gun with a microswitch lol
ThunderCactus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 30th, 2014, 17:55   #13
K3vX
 
K3vX's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Quebec City
If you read the doc Stealth linked, it shows you what you should look in a Microswitch. It also gives a part number to help.

Here's the one Gandolf used in his test: http://www.digikey.ca/product-search...=V7-1S17D8-022

I'm sure with a bit of Google-fu, you can find out the best one for you.
K3vX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 30th, 2014, 19:35   #14
Sloth
 
Sloth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Toronto
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThunderCactus View Post
yeah well, next time don't buy a gun with a microswitch lol
I definitely will NOT.
I'm goin with a g&g.
This current p.o.s will be returned to stock and given a 7.4. Loaner gun from meow on
__________________
"Too much Knowledge is Dangerous, not enough is Worse"
Sloth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 1st, 2014, 16:55   #15
ccyg8774
 
ccyg8774's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Brampton, ON
Are you still using the micro switches from Active Surplus in Toronto and rated for 11 amps?
Have you tried an OMRON V7-1S17D8-022 ?
__________________

Last edited by ccyg8774; April 1st, 2014 at 17:02..
ccyg8774 is offline   Reply With Quote
ReplyTop


Go Back   Airsoft Canada > Discussion > Doctor's Corner

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Airsoft Canada
http://triggerairsoft.com/shop/

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:48.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.