G&p m14 dmr

[HackD]

I've got the itch on to get something to augment what i have already in the way of field toys - a DMR to sit back in the weeds, take it easy, and still enjoy the field for the first part of this season (I have no choice on that, for medical reasons).

My first thought/instinct was to get an additional 18.5" M16 upper for my current ICS M4 and DMR that out, within reason - but just the upper alone is near the cost of a KA M4 at present - I'm kind of balking at that, at the moment.

However - the M14 has always appealed to me - even before airsoft entered into my awareness. The G&P M14 DMR can be found for reasonable nick at a certain retailer at present - however, to commit to it, means also to committing to buying a few more mags with it, and possibly a mechbox downgrade to keep it field legal and potentially to keep the mechbox from committing ritualized Seppuku in short order - so not so inexpensive in the end.

My question - I haven't seen all that much in the way of reviews of this specific G&P M14 DMR, beyond a Jerek4 boobtube review (and i know the rep of THAT Cat..). I understand that G&P has a generally good rep for it's M4 models - I don't know about anything else in the way of their models. Anyone here, with practical ownership experience with this one, able to give an opinion on it, positive or negative before i dump a wad of cash on one?

Danke.

[HackD]

Well, I guess it is just too bad for me if it turns out to be a stinker.

I've now got one more nail-driver to play with for this summer, for better or for worse.

[oniwagamaru]

well if it is TM compatible you can get those things rigged up to be nail drivers... I love my TM m14... erm XM21.

[HackD]

Originally Posted by oniwagamaru

well if it is TM compatible you can get those things rigged up to be nail drivers... I love my TM m14... erm XM21.

Fully TM compatible - may be a bit of a change/differentiation with the G&P motor, but otherwise, basically a TM clone in the internals as i understand it.

I did do some further research on it - it doesn't sound like one of G&P stellar achievements, but judicious use of aftermarket components will make things right if things go wrong. The basic gun sounds solid (to me, anyway).

Aside from the gawd awful shaded, not quite olive-drab ABS furniture (which is apparently darn close to the Marine Corps Real-Deal in photos, so what do i know), i'm sure that this thing will grow on me.

[MMatersk]

I would love to see some pics if you can get some up. I'm looking at an spr set up my self...

[HackD]

Originally Posted by MMatersk

I would love to see some pics if you can get some up. I'm looking at an spr set up my self...

I had mine in my own hands for a grand total of one day before i sent it off to a shop gun-doc to change out the spring to something that won't have me hated in the safe zone, post-game, so i can't really give you any photo's of mine - anyway, my photo's always suck anyway, so that's kind of a blessing.

The G&P M14 DMR is based upon G&P's own body kit it made available to refit TM compatible M14's into a DMR chassis - I don't know whether it was a case of G&P not selling enough of the kits, and needing to do something with a surplus amount of kits - or just G&P saying, 'hey, mebbie we can just market a complete rifle too!'.

In any case, it uses the G&P kit furniture, with an in-house G&P manufactured rifle filling it out.

Photo's are pulled off the web - not mine.



The kit turns a TM compatible M14 into this:





As the G&P comes in the box, equipped with a pretty decent included 3-9x40 Telescopic scope, and upper fore-stock rails.

I am working on McGyvering up a front disconnectable sling-mount adapter fitting for a Harris bi-pod. One is available commercially, but i like playing with my metal working tools, and have time on my side to do so.



September 2007 pre-release hypeage ASC thread - http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=44738

[jomor]

Get yourself a TM M14 or a clone and buy the kit. Easy to install and then you can flip it back to regular any time you like. I have the kit, but I prefer the King arms EBR I installed on my TM instead.
I mentioned that I have the kit for sale if you ever change your mind.

[ken855]

Mu buddy just received one (dmr) today. I haven't have a chance to check it out yet but I own a G&P MK14 Mod 1 (EBR). It is an awesome gun. The range, with a lil' treak, is incredible.
The G&P DMR my buddy bought from 1 of the retailer in Canada is, in my opinion, pretty well priced. It's cheaper than if u buy a M14 and then buy the stock to do the mod. The internal of the G&P is pretty good already so there isn't much u need to do except maybe a TB and better hop up rubber.

It's nice when u can nail people so far away that they either dun see u or their gun just can't reach u

[HackD]

Originally Posted by ken855

The G&P DMR my buddy bought from 1 of the retailer in Canada is, in my opinion, pretty well priced. It's cheaper than if u buy a M14 and then buy the stock to do the mod.

This was my thought process also, when i saw it on sale (likely at the same dealer - I drove in, just to buy the last one in stock.) I'm too darn cheap to go and buy a TM M14 AND the kit - although if i found a wood stock at a later date in good nick used, i certainly wouldn't pass it up. It would be nice to diversify my parts available, in case a Vietnam themed game came up that i wanted to attend.

I'll agree, the M14 DMR model ABS stock is an acquired taste - but i do have strange tastes already, so it's all good.

[oniwagamaru]

yeah M14 wood stocks are hard to come by. I would like one since Xm21's were with wood stocks too!

[HackD]

NOT an auspicious start for this G&P M14. I was to pick up the M14 from the gundoc/local retailer this afternoon, after a spring-change to a more sane M95, due to personal concerns of safety and reliability at 430-450 fps, of the CDN import modified version spring that was inside - and the gearbox wasn't even up to the task of the M95 spring. The sector gear spun off of it's axle, fourth test shot in at ~366 fps.

Oh well, shiite happens i guess. At least it broke in the hands of a retailer that is affiliated with the business, that the rifle was purchased from - so warranty work should be fully covered. He's going to handle the direct communications himself, to get the warranty work handled - he's not too happy that it would break literally out of the box like that with a down-graded spring, while in his hands. I never even got to fire it yet - just fondled it for a 1/2 hr, before i took it in for the spring change.

[Boyso]

Originally Posted by oniwagamaru

yeah M14 wood stocks are hard to come by. I would like one since Xm21's were with wood stocks too!

Hmm, M14 wood stock are not hard to come buy at all. You can buy a real one and modding it to fit. Shouldn't be too hard.

[oniwagamaru]

well one thats already made to fit lol... shoulda specified that. I think it takes a lot of time to modify those stocks and I have neither time nor patience to do it lol... not even the tools or the expertise really. hmmm might as well start a new hobby I guess when I get sent to the middle of nowheresville since I dont think I will be airsofting for a while after May or so.

[MaciekA]

HackD, this is normal with G&P mechboxes, the gears are crap. Don't dispair though.. You can just pop better gears in it. The rest of the gun should be quite solid.

Is this your first G&P?

[HackD]

Originally Posted by MaciekA

HackD, this is normal with G&P mechboxes, the gears are crap. Don't dispair though.. You can just pop better gears in it. The rest of the gun should be quite solid.

Is this your first G&P?

Yep, my first G&P. I kind of expected that the gears used were sub-par after doing some reading (post-purchase) - but i didn't expect that I would have issues (or rather, the gun-doc would) quite this soon. All things considered, I guess that it's better to happen now while in 'warranty', than in the field.

He (the gun-doc) mentioned that he'd try to get a set of SHS gears for it as a warranty resolution - he pulled another G&P gear out of his toolbox with the very same issue, but it was out of an M4 that at least saw some use out of it, before it failed.