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Old January 27th, 2011, 21:31   #1
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ICS M4 spring question

hey guys,, i just opened it up for the first time since i got it.. the piston is cracked and im getting another one tomorrow.. but now im having an issue with the spring. once im done firing. No problems works better but after when i hit the forward assist the spring usually unwinded, this dosent happen anymore, help?


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Old January 27th, 2011, 21:41   #2
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That sometime happens...

1) is your battery charged

2) Fire one auto burst then 5 or 6 shot semi and try again
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Old January 27th, 2011, 21:46   #3
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i did, and my battery is charged.. hmmm kinda worried now lol, i dont want to break it.
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Old January 27th, 2011, 21:47   #4
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Does the spring unwind after your last shot all the time instead?
If so, you forgot to put it, or put in your antireversal latch wrong.
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Old January 27th, 2011, 21:48   #5
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if your changing your piston, you might as well change the piston head and cylinder for better air seal. By the way before you take everything out, you have to press the forward assist.
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Old January 27th, 2011, 21:51   #6
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Does the spring unwind after your last shot all the time instead?
If so, you forgot to put it, or put in your antireversal latch wrong.

ok not sure what the antireversal latch is, but ill youtube or google it ... and yeah it worked perfect before, so must be something i did.


And yes i am getting everything new tomorrow. piston etc.
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Old January 27th, 2011, 22:05   #7
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ok yeah that damn thing.. i tried to fix it twice, thought it was that but, feels like its working ..
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Old January 27th, 2011, 23:20   #8
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ok i fixed it, now its so much loder and the spring still dosent unwinde
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Old January 27th, 2011, 23:43   #9
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When you closed you aeg back, did you bring the smooth surface of the top gear (on top)

Or

Did you persuade it to close in any way because the rachet pushes on the anti reversal lever you said was OK... if it's bent... it wont work

or

the rachet push rod end up some how in front of the anti reverse (wont work either) does the rachet rod return to the rear when released

if that is all good... reopen (check barrel seat, make sure the rachet rod sits behind the anti reversal and try again... you probably just mis aligned something

your going to hate me for this... charge your batery and try again tomorrow (fire a burst then 4 or 5 shots semi and hit it

It happend to me 2 times in almost 2 years and each time the gremlin disappeared before I could figure what was wrong
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Old January 27th, 2011, 23:50   #10
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ok i fixed it, now its so much loder and the spring still dosent unwinde
If the piston is already in the forward position and you push the forward assist nothing will happen! I had the same thing happen when I changed my spring in the upper and realized the same thing after a while! Sometimes it releases the spring and sometimes it doesn't because it isn't under load! As for the anti- reversal latch, it's the latch inside the lower gearbox that sticks out the top when you take apart the receiver and remove the upper! If you haven't taken your lower gearbox apart then it wasn't that, however, sometimes the anti-reversal latch springs are weak and you may need to replace it!
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Old January 27th, 2011, 23:51   #11
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ok done it twice, now opened it again. im not going to stop till i get this done. cause its driving me nuts. thanks for the advice ill try it
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Old January 27th, 2011, 23:52   #12
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see now when i fire its soooo much louder, like i can hear the gears move.. hmmmmm.. when i close the gearbox and put it into the gun again and put the handle and motor, the gears dont move like they did without the motor. that ok still?


ok let me try it again and ill post lol GAH!!!
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Old January 27th, 2011, 23:55   #13
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Shit i forgot
before closing... reverse the gearbox direction using you fingers until de anti reversal stands up (moves forward a bit)

If you have a turbo 3000 it not easy (stiff motor)
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Old January 27th, 2011, 23:57   #14
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what do you mean till it locks?
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Old January 28th, 2011, 00:01   #15
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ok cool, yeah its a 3000. im double checking everything now.
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