Open or closed bolt??

[Double Tapper]

I am trying figure out if closed bolt on airsoft is the
same as RS,and open bolt is like the sten,or am I
off base and closed bolt is like the WE escort M4?

[Thenooblord]

closed and open bolt refers to the same thing as with real steel, IE GBB M4 and AK are closed bolt and GBB M11 are open bolt

[Double Tapper]

So when the guys are referring to the WE M14 being a closed
bolt,it will function like the WA M4 platforms when you take the
mag out and pull the bolt back,you see right through the mag well?
Like RS and no brass tube.

[coach]

closed bolt = brass tube
open bolt = no brass tube

[Thenooblord]

Originally Posted by coachster

closed bolt = brass tube
open bolt = no brass tube

that ONLY applies to WE system, in all other circumstances its referring to the same thing as RS, the WE system variants really SHOULDNT be called "open bolt" and "closed bolt" but it just stuck

[coach]

Originally Posted by Thenooblord

that ONLY applies to WE system, in all other circumstances its referring to the same thing as RS, the WE really SHOULDNT be called "open bolt" and "closed bolt" but it just stuck

yes, and the OP is asking about WE!

[RacingManiac]

Originally Posted by coachster

closed bolt = brass tube
open bolt = no brass tube

Not quite I don't think, since guns like the KSC M11 or something is actually a "open bolt" airsoft gun like the RS open bolt, in that when its cocked, the bolt is actually open. Regardless of the WE version or any M4 GBBR, they all actually shoot from closed bolt...

[Assault Pioneer]

I run an Open bolt WE/AWSS KAC PDW and it's a beast, no brass tube pretty realistic lot's of kick and it's pretty loud (this will get you singled out and targeted in games eventually lol) but you need high quality heavy bb's for the gun will have quite a few catastrophic jam's, it needs high quality bb's to feed smoothly, and heavy to they won't get bounced away when the bolt rams them forward into the barrel, if they aren't both of these the round's will jam everywhere even get in the trigger assembly and could cause damage.

I don't know about the brass tube's but I heard their much more reliable although I have no problems with my PDW aslong as it's properly maintained, lubed and cleaned with high quality BB's it's rather quite intimidating to the other player's lol

[Double Tapper]

So if I understand you guys correctly,the WE M14 for
distribution in Canada has the brass tube over the
mag like the WE M4?

[Assault Pioneer]

Originally Posted by Double Tapper

So if I understand you guys correctly,the WE M14 for
distribution in Canada has the brass tube over the
mag like the WE M4?

http://www.airsoftforum.com/board/M14-PICS-t160797.html

pictures are old but it look's like the Brass tube setup, which means consistancy and reliability.

will let others confirm though

[Thenooblord]

Originally Posted by coachster

yes, and the OP is asking about WE!

no, he simply MENTIONED WE
he asked about RS sten and if that meaning applied to airsoft

[coach]

Originally Posted by RacingManiac

Not quite I don't think, since guns like the KSC M11 or something is actually a "open bolt" airsoft gun like the RS open bolt, in that when its cocked, the bolt is actually open. Regardless of the WE version or any M4 GBBR, they all actually shoot from closed bolt...

yes, but WE has used the open/closed bolt terminology to differentiate their brass tube systems not the actual position of the bolt while firing.

[Assault Pioneer]

Originally Posted by Thenooblord

no, he simply MENTIONED WE
he asked about RS sten and if that meaning applied to airsoft

calm down with your formalities man.... it's as bad as being a grammer nazi


OP in airsoft

Open bolt= no brass tube, you can see into the chamber, realistic
closed bolt= brass tube structure in the way, you cannot see into the chamber, reliable

[Thenooblord]

Originally Posted by Assault Pioneer

calm down with your formalities man.... it's as bad as being a grammer nazi


OP in airsoft

Open bolt= no brass tube, you can see into the chamber, realistic
closed bolt= brass tube structure in the way, you cannot see into the chamber, reliable

like i keep saying, that definition, ONLY applies to WE, not to any normal gbbr system, so it is incorrect if it only applies to one brand of gun, we are talking about the actual function of the guns in general

[Double Tapper]

So these have brass tubes,the WE M14.I had seen a
picture of the WE M14 with a see through mag well
with no brass tube,this is why I asked.So there is two
models of this gun then.