My TM Hi-Capa 5.1: Episode 2

RacingManiac · February 1st, 2009, 12:11

ah well, I am sure it's too late to do that. At any rate I ordered a key with it(no I never had one before). I'll figure something to do with the valves....

808 · February 1st, 2009, 14:03

Sexy build man.

I've never liked shooting double-stacks, but they sure are sexy to look at.

RacingManiac · February 1st, 2009, 18:32

Some update on that FPS business, the propane bottle was running low, so I got a new one and tested again with the current setup. Now I am getting about ~360fps pretty consistantly now. I think the AS nozzle still gets higher fps, but it broke, so I'll take what I can now. I've taken this think apart and together probably 10-15 times these past few days, lots of filing, sanding and lubing...lol

MrEvolution · February 1st, 2009, 18:39

Wait a sec, an Airsoft Surgeon part BROKE? Thats crazy to me.

RacingManiac · February 1st, 2009, 19:56

I was as surprised as you.....

landwarrior · February 1st, 2009, 20:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak

eHobby uses Airmail. So probably 7-14 business days.

Dammmm....7 to 14 days?? My shipment said it left Canada on the 30th

the4thpower3 · February 2nd, 2009, 22:38

My stock TM modded mag valves produce the same or better power than all the aftermarket units I've tried...And I haven't broken or damaged one in thousands of rounds.

RM - I've been having plently of sucess using the Shooters Design O-ring on the Airsoft Surgeon/ProG4 Breech/Piston Head, along with a Shooters Design Loading Nozzel.

Your 360FPS on .20g (?) bbs is quite good on 6.05 inner barrel.
Especially if you are not warming your mags.

What hop-up bucking are you using?

If you swap to a PDI 163mm 6.01 inner barrel, a good high flow mag valve you will be at 400-410fps with warmed mags.

I'm not a FPS junky anymore. But I do think there is a topic of discussion on accuracy, considering BB weight and Joules.

RacingManiac · February 2nd, 2009, 23:25

My idea is to be able to get the fps, which would allow faster speed with heavier BB, which *should* mean more stable trajectory of the heavier BB with the speed of the lighter BB. I've been able to get ~315-320 with .25s now.

The thing I am not understanding though is that the SD O-ring seems to seal real well in terms of fitment with the SD nozzle and ProG4 piston. But the FPS is just not there compare to the AS nozzle....

the4thpower3 · February 3rd, 2009, 00:06

I'm not sure either. Though I use either Proud or NineBall floating valve springs. I never use SD floating valves (they stick in SD nozzels). I normally use a stock floating valve or the Action (or King Arms) floating valves.

What are you using? Were you switching the same loading nozzel internals and just swaping nozzels? Maybe the loading nozzel tips are different size and you're not getting the same seal? What hopup bucking are you using? I only use NineBall hop up buckings.

I just chrono'd my ProG4 with a 5.1 length NineBall .03 inner barrel. All shots between 350-360 fps on .20g.

RacingManiac · February 3rd, 2009, 00:10

stock floating valve and stock hopup....though "different" stock floating valve, as in when I swapped I just took one for another(out of my 1911 atm).....I guess I could try swapping that too...

On the side note, I swapped the ProG4 trigger loop+trigger into the new gun from my SV. No electrical tape shimming was needed to get the slack free pull, pretty satisfied with that part....

ILLusion · February 3rd, 2009, 00:13

Yes, the ProG4 trigger bow is awesome. I'm going to have to get a couple more of those... In fact, I may even get a wholesale order of those.

RacingManiac · February 3rd, 2009, 21:47

hmm...I love shooting wide open.....

the4thpower3 · February 3rd, 2009, 22:03

Have you had a chance to tune the trigger bar?
Besides being made of steel and being able hold it proper form, the cut tab on the front is the a great feature. They have been using this feature on real guns for a while. I have cut stock trigger bars to do the same thing...problem was the flimsy metal the stock trigger bar is made of.

Be careful with the "reset" feature. It doesnt need to be pushed very far forward to do its job. And if you do push it too far, it won't allow the the trigger to reset properly (ie. the disconnector won't have enough room to slide under the sear beause the triger bar would still be pushing back on it).

ILLusion · February 3rd, 2009, 23:41

Yeah, that was the first thing I noticed, as I went pretty extreme with the initial adjustments and slowly tuned it back.

RacingManiac · February 3rd, 2009, 23:54

what's the reset you are referring to? The set screw or something else?

Home	Forums	Register	Gallery	FAQ	Calendar
Retailers	Community	News/Info	International Retailers	IRC	Today's Posts

British Columbia	Alberta
BCAC	EAR
Op-For	JOC
Northern Arms Airsoft	Skunkworx Airsoft
Airsoft Kelowna	RAAT
Prince George Airsoft	Manitoba
Saskatchewan	MAA
SK Airsoft	Ontario
PDW	Airsoft Ottawa
South Sask Mercs	Snow Dragons
Quebec	1st Ranger Platoon
PQAC	Wolfpack Tactical
1st Pathfinders Regiment	TTAC3
Quebec Airsoft
MTX Airsoft	Atlantic
FAQc	Atlantic Airsoft

February 1st, 2009, 12:11	#31
RacingManiac Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada/US	ah well, I am sure it's too late to do that. At any rate I ordered a key with it(no I never had one before). I'll figure something to do with the valves.... __________________ My Arnies' Album My PBase Album Custom Pistol Whore...

February 1st, 2009, 14:03	#32
808 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 6mm-mag.com - Winnipeg	Sexy build man. I've never liked shooting double-stacks, but they sure are sexy to look at. __________________

February 1st, 2009, 18:32	#33
RacingManiac Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada/US	Some update on that FPS business, the propane bottle was running low, so I got a new one and tested again with the current setup. Now I am getting about ~360fps pretty consistantly now. I think the AS nozzle still gets higher fps, but it broke, so I'll take what I can now. I've taken this think apart and together probably 10-15 times these past few days, lots of filing, sanding and lubing...lol __________________ My Arnies' Album My PBase Album Custom Pistol Whore...

February 1st, 2009, 19:56	#35
RacingManiac Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada/US	I was as surprised as you..... __________________ My Arnies' Album My PBase Album Custom Pistol Whore...

February 2nd, 2009, 22:38	#37
the4thpower3 Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2009	My stock TM modded mag valves produce the same or better power than all the aftermarket units I've tried...And I haven't broken or damaged one in thousands of rounds. RM - I've been having plently of sucess using the Shooters Design O-ring on the Airsoft Surgeon/ProG4 Breech/Piston Head, along with a Shooters Design Loading Nozzel. Your 360FPS on .20g (?) bbs is quite good on 6.05 inner barrel. Especially if you are not warming your mags. What hop-up bucking are you using? If you swap to a PDI 163mm 6.01 inner barrel, a good high flow mag valve you will be at 400-410fps with warmed mags. I'm not a FPS junky anymore. But I do think there is a topic of discussion on accuracy, considering BB weight and Joules. __________________ Props to Captian KK @ http://www.ProG4.com I RUV Hi-CAPA GASUBUROBAKKUGAN http://www.aaps-federation.org/index.html

February 2nd, 2009, 23:25	#38
RacingManiac Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada/US	My idea is to be able to get the fps, which would allow faster speed with heavier BB, which should mean more stable trajectory of the heavier BB with the speed of the lighter BB. I've been able to get ~315-320 with .25s now. The thing I am not understanding though is that the SD O-ring seems to seal real well in terms of fitment with the SD nozzle and ProG4 piston. But the FPS is just not there compare to the AS nozzle.... __________________ My Arnies' Album My PBase Album Custom Pistol Whore...

February 3rd, 2009, 00:06	#39
the4thpower3 Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2009	I'm not sure either. Though I use either Proud or NineBall floating valve springs. I never use SD floating valves (they stick in SD nozzels). I normally use a stock floating valve or the Action (or King Arms) floating valves. What are you using? Were you switching the same loading nozzel internals and just swaping nozzels? Maybe the loading nozzel tips are different size and you're not getting the same seal? What hopup bucking are you using? I only use NineBall hop up buckings. I just chrono'd my ProG4 with a 5.1 length NineBall .03 inner barrel. All shots between 350-360 fps on .20g. __________________ Props to Captian KK @ http://www.ProG4.com I RUV Hi-CAPA GASUBUROBAKKUGAN http://www.aaps-federation.org/index.html Last edited by the4thpower3; February 3rd, 2009 at 00:10..

February 3rd, 2009, 00:10	#40
RacingManiac Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada/US	stock floating valve and stock hopup....though "different" stock floating valve, as in when I swapped I just took one for another(out of my 1911 atm).....I guess I could try swapping that too... On the side note, I swapped the ProG4 trigger loop+trigger into the new gun from my SV. No electrical tape shimming was needed to get the slack free pull, pretty satisfied with that part.... __________________ My Arnies' Album My PBase Album Custom Pistol Whore...

February 3rd, 2009, 00:13	#41
ILLusion GBB Whisperer Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto	Yes, the ProG4 trigger bow is awesome. I'm going to have to get a couple more of those... In fact, I may even get a wholesale order of those. __________________ *Advanced Airsoft Armaments and Enhancements* Quick to the gun, sure of your grip. Quick to the threat, sure of your shot. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas Accuracy, Power, Speed

February 3rd, 2009, 21:47	#42
RacingManiac Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada/US	hmm...I love shooting wide open..... __________________ My Arnies' Album My PBase Album Custom Pistol Whore...

February 3rd, 2009, 22:03	#43
the4thpower3 Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2009	Have you had a chance to tune the trigger bar? Besides being made of steel and being able hold it proper form, the cut tab on the front is the a great feature. They have been using this feature on real guns for a while. I have cut stock trigger bars to do the same thing...problem was the flimsy metal the stock trigger bar is made of. Be careful with the "reset" feature. It doesnt need to be pushed very far forward to do its job. And if you do push it too far, it won't allow the the trigger to reset properly (ie. the disconnector won't have enough room to slide under the sear beause the triger bar would still be pushing back on it). __________________ Props to Captian KK @ http://www.ProG4.com I RUV Hi-CAPA GASUBUROBAKKUGAN http://www.aaps-federation.org/index.html

February 3rd, 2009, 23:41	#44
ILLusion GBB Whisperer Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto	Yeah, that was the first thing I noticed, as I went pretty extreme with the initial adjustments and slowly tuned it back. __________________ *Advanced Airsoft Armaments and Enhancements* Quick to the gun, sure of your grip. Quick to the threat, sure of your shot. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas Accuracy, Power, Speed

February 3rd, 2009, 23:54	#45
RacingManiac Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada/US	what's the reset you are referring to? The set screw or something else? __________________ My Arnies' Album My PBase Album Custom Pistol Whore...

My TM Hi-Capa 5.1: Episode 2

Airsoft Media