best red dot for indoor/outdoor

BioRage · February 12th, 2015, 10:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by dracu

does anyone know if there's any primary arms dealer in the country?

No, you need a special import license or a special way.

1/1 Stealth before brought it in as a one time thing.

You can buy it from Amazon.com, ship to po office in buffalo, pick it up.

Zack The Ripper · February 12th, 2015, 13:50

Holosun.

It's been mentioned here a number of times. Does the exact same thing, has a 50,000/5.7 year battery life, is night vision compatible, lower profile, and super light. It also accepts GunsModify T-1 lens protectors.

Just buy one and stahp.

Your only other option is IRunGuns.ca, however their site is down currently for maintenance and has been wince last week when I last popped onto their website to schmooze. You will pay about the price of a Holosun, if not more after ITAR exemption, shipping costs, any taxes and duties applicable, and not to mention the current atrocious exchange rates from USD to CAD.

If you want to go through all that trouble, go ahead, but honestly, just buy the Holosun and forget about it. It's the same sight, just a different power housing design.

Edit: According to a team mate CTCSupplies.ca will also import them on a case by case basis. Unconfirmed, but worth a try if you are set on it.

TorinoFermic · February 12th, 2015, 14:04

Zack, given i also bought a Lucid HD7 and his flash killer from irunguns.com because this is only best cost-effective real steel red dot i think that will fit best on my ICS L85 and still look correctly for a British setup.

Airsoft will be back in action in few weeks, it was the right time for us to buy more stuff including quality red dots.

By the way, Lucid HD7 cost about a Vortex Sparc II but with raping taxes if you happen to not live outside of Ontario. I bought it with intent to ship into Quebec at my father's house or his place of work.

I hear from Reddit/r/Airsoft they do sure have some players using real Eotechs like 512s, so this is a thing to keep in mind when you future-proof your purchase if you ever decide to buy a GBBR or Daytona gun.

About for Holosun, the shape and the manufacturer are same for Primary Arms version. Just exported to Canada for you can buy them in peace. Beside looking simple, it sure do have great features for best cost.

zzzzsleepy8 · February 13th, 2015, 01:39

Not sure why people are saying red dots suck, or that using iron sights is better.

We're not even talking real steel here, but most airsoft red dots are pretty good. Even crappy ones. They get the job done.

Just make sure to get a parallax free one and you're good to go.

The advantage of red dot is of course quick acquisition and no need for lining up the iron sights with a good cheek weld using a rifle or proper form when holding a pistol. With a red dot, where the dot is, is where the shot will go. Doesn't matter that you're not looking straight on. Its basically way way better than iron sights.

FirestormX · February 13th, 2015, 08:49

Some common complaints with red dots are that:
* The large dot will obscure a large MOA of the target (one of the reasons EOTech reticules have a tiny dot for a small MOA, with a larger ring around it to help draw your eye to the point of aim, without searching for that tiny dot).
* Knockoff (and even some really really crappy real steel) red dots are difficult to see in bright sunlight.
* Knockoff (and again, crappy real steel) red dots cannot be turned low enough at night, that they do not practically obscure everything in the FOV of the optic, by shining its bright light into your darkness-adjusted eye.
* When the batteries die, or the optic is damaged, then the optic is useless.
* They add a fair bit of weight and additional potential snag points to the rifle.

With the way I handle my firearm, a good optic adds way more value than it takes away with these (potential) draw backs. I can understand the appeal of sticking with irons, and I do just run irons from time to time. But a good optic is generally an asset.

BobbyDangerous · February 13th, 2015, 10:10

Aimpoint M2 with a Wilcox MK18

Still Beating · February 13th, 2015, 10:53

EOTech 512. Check mine out. a65 reticle. Airsoft MP5+A4 stock about $100. Sight, about $500. lol

DipTwit · February 13th, 2015, 11:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Still Beating

MP5 ... about $100. Sight, about $500. lol

Yeah that's about what I was thinking when I held a RS SpectreDR in my hand once... they wanted almost $3k for it

Seriously, I have the Holosun on one gun and don't regret that at all, it's great.

Still Beating · February 13th, 2015, 11:25

ACOG is a great sight too.

I love these eotechs; holographic reflex is awesome for picking up moving targets WHILE you're moving, you don't get any parallax unless you have a cheap optic. I also have a Burris FastFire 3, and it has some parallax but gives you a white line to help centre your eye. I won't buy any sights that can't take recoil, and this is why these sights are all much more than $100. Dual purpose, though.

Next purchase... http://www.tacticalimports.ca/gsci-c...ght-p-260.html (640x480 + all bells and whistles)

BH The Trooper · February 13th, 2015, 12:42

Listen to Zack...

Holosun is a great red dot, i have the one with solar panel and work great even without battery

Still Beating · February 13th, 2015, 14:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zack The Ripper

Your only other option is IRunGuns.ca, however their site is down currently for maintenance and has been wince last week when I last popped onto their website to schmooze.

?? irunguns.ca is up and has been up all week. I never knew it was down, but I did have to create a new account when I placed my most recent order with them. Paid and they shipped via canpar on the same day. Awaiting delivery.

Zack The Ripper · February 13th, 2015, 15:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Still Beating

?? irunguns.ca is up and has been up all week. I never knew it was down, but I did have to create a new account when I placed my most recent order with them. Paid and they shipped via canpar on the same day. Awaiting delivery.

It's now up for me as well. Was last week when I checked and wasn't yesterday when I popped in. Must have just been checking at the wrong times. No matter, IRunGuns.ca is a solid source for anything ITAR.

Dutch_McBain · February 13th, 2015, 19:47

the Holosun paralow (micro T1 style) is my best airsoft buy since my G&P autobot, i F***** love it. i have play cqb last w-e and i can say that my target accisition was way faster and better, witch leads to more kills.

and i have found an oversea retailler that sells them for 144$ us plus 10 or 11$ for shipping. i cannot tell you the name of this site here but i can say that if you use google and you imput airsoft and club you should find it... lol

BH The Trooper · February 13th, 2015, 21:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch_McBain

the Holosun paralow (micro T1 style) is my best airsoft buy since my G&P autobot, i F***** love it. i have play cqb last w-e and i can say that my target accisition was way faster and better, witch leads to more kills.

and i have found an oversea retailler that sells them for 144$ us plus 10 or 11$ for shipping. i cannot tell you the name of this site here but i can say that if you use google and you imput airsoft and club you should find it... lol

That's a great DEAL cause the retail price is $169

And the feature auto ON/OFF is amazing, and solar panel is a sweet bonus but the price come with it

Rommen · February 13th, 2015, 22:07

I bought a Holosun as my Christmas present to myself. Haven't game it yet but from all aspects I can see it is a quality sight.

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February 12th, 2015, 13:50	#17
Zack The Ripper Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: CFB Shilo, MB	Holosun. It's been mentioned here a number of times. Does the exact same thing, has a 50,000/5.7 year battery life, is night vision compatible, lower profile, and super light. It also accepts GunsModify T-1 lens protectors. Just buy one and stahp. Your only other option is IRunGuns.ca, however their site is down currently for maintenance and has been wince last week when I last popped onto their website to schmooze. You will pay about the price of a Holosun, if not more after ITAR exemption, shipping costs, any taxes and duties applicable, and not to mention the current atrocious exchange rates from USD to CAD. If you want to go through all that trouble, go ahead, but honestly, just buy the Holosun and forget about it. It's the same sight, just a different power housing design. Edit: According to a team mate CTCSupplies.ca will also import them on a case by case basis. Unconfirmed, but worth a try if you are set on it. __________________ Guardians of Asgaard Last edited by Zack The Ripper; February 12th, 2015 at 15:06..

February 13th, 2015, 11:25	#24
Still Beating Trader rating Join Date: May 2014	ACOG is a great sight too. I love these eotechs; holographic reflex is awesome for picking up moving targets WHILE you're moving, you don't get any parallax unless you have a cheap optic. I also have a Burris FastFire 3, and it has some parallax but gives you a white line to help centre your eye. I won't buy any sights that can't take recoil, and this is why these sights are all much more than $100. Dual purpose, though. Next purchase... http://www.tacticalimports.ca/gsci-c...ght-p-260.html (640x480 + all bells and whistles) Last edited by Still Beating; February 13th, 2015 at 11:29..

February 13th, 2015, 12:42	#25
BH The Trooper Trader rating Join Date: May 2012 Location: Oiled...on the (Verdun's) beach...next to Barbie	Listen to Zack... Holosun is a great red dot, i have the one with solar panel and work great even without battery __________________ Just call me "Trooper" dammit

February 12th, 2015, 14:04	#18
TorinoFermic Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Russell, ON	Zack, given i also bought a Lucid HD7 and his flash killer from irunguns.com because this is only best cost-effective real steel red dot i think that will fit best on my ICS L85 and still look correctly for a British setup. Airsoft will be back in action in few weeks, it was the right time for us to buy more stuff including quality red dots. By the way, Lucid HD7 cost about a Vortex Sparc II but with raping taxes if you happen to not live outside of Ontario. I bought it with intent to ship into Quebec at my father's house or his place of work. I hear from Reddit/r/Airsoft they do sure have some players using real Eotechs like 512s, so this is a thing to keep in mind when you future-proof your purchase if you ever decide to buy a GBBR or Daytona gun. About for Holosun, the shape and the manufacturer are same for Primary Arms version. Just exported to Canada for you can buy them in peace. Beside looking simple, it sure do have great features for best cost.

February 13th, 2015, 01:39	#19
zzzzsleepy8 Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2014	Not sure why people are saying red dots suck, or that using iron sights is better. We're not even talking real steel here, but most airsoft red dots are pretty good. Even crappy ones. They get the job done. Just make sure to get a parallax free one and you're good to go. The advantage of red dot is of course quick acquisition and no need for lining up the iron sights with a good cheek weld using a rifle or proper form when holding a pistol. With a red dot, where the dot is, is where the shot will go. Doesn't matter that you're not looking straight on. Its basically way way better than iron sights.

February 13th, 2015, 08:49	#20
FirestormX Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mississauga, Ontario	Some common complaints with red dots are that: * The large dot will obscure a large MOA of the target (one of the reasons EOTech reticules have a tiny dot for a small MOA, with a larger ring around it to help draw your eye to the point of aim, without searching for that tiny dot). * Knockoff (and even some really really crappy real steel) red dots are difficult to see in bright sunlight. * Knockoff (and again, crappy real steel) red dots cannot be turned low enough at night, that they do not practically obscure everything in the FOV of the optic, by shining its bright light into your darkness-adjusted eye. * When the batteries die, or the optic is damaged, then the optic is useless. * They add a fair bit of weight and additional potential snag points to the rifle. With the way I handle my firearm, a good optic adds way more value than it takes away with these (potential) draw backs. I can understand the appeal of sticking with irons, and I do just run irons from time to time. But a good optic is generally an asset.

February 13th, 2015, 10:10	#21
BobbyDangerous Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Oshawa	Aimpoint M2 with a Wilcox MK18

February 13th, 2015, 10:53	#22
Still Beating Trader rating Join Date: May 2014	EOTech 512. Check mine out. a65 reticle. Airsoft MP5+A4 stock about $100. Sight, about $500. lol

February 13th, 2015, 19:47	#28
Dutch_McBain Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Near Montreal, Qc	the Holosun paralow (micro T1 style) is my best airsoft buy since my G&P autobot, i F***** love it. i have play cqb last w-e and i can say that my target accisition was way faster and better, witch leads to more kills. and i have found an oversea retailler that sells them for 144$ us plus 10 or 11$ for shipping. i cannot tell you the name of this site here but i can say that if you use google and you imput airsoft and club you should find it... lol

February 13th, 2015, 22:07	#30
Rommen Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Mississauga, Ontario.	I bought a Holosun as my Christmas present to myself. Haven't game it yet but from all aspects I can see it is a quality sight.

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