VFC MP7 - Wow, Such A1, Much 1:1.

Danke · January 20th, 2014, 16:17

The TM is not 1:1.

Reports out of Germany on the VFC are not stellar.

Be the guy PH, try out the VFC for Canada. Or get your brother to hookup some trigger time in HK.

GBBR · January 20th, 2014, 19:54

Any VFC GBBR rifle will be shit. they've always been shit, and stay shit no matter the aftermarket parts and support.

VFC can make their guns look as beautiful as they can, buy its garbage. 1:1 or not.

SuperHog · January 20th, 2014, 21:27

Nice nice nice.

Aftermarket companies will take care of defects or bug.

The VFC Glock is a beauty.

BioRage · January 20th, 2014, 22:12

Update: Jan 20.

WGCShop has them listed for pre-order for $255.00 USD.

Tisane · January 21st, 2014, 15:33

Been like that for about a week mate

Nearly got enough saved for mine

Danke · January 21st, 2014, 16:32

Ripped from the headlines in HK

held and fired one of these the other day. 28C ambient on greengas with 0.2g bbs.

Not impressed, really.

It's lighter than the TM. Noticeably lighter, even fully loaded.

The plastic quality seems cheap to me, especially compared to the wonderful job VFC did with their G36 GBBrs.

The detailing is nice, the trades are nice and the flip up sights are nice. It's also quite nice in the hand, more comfortable than the TM (mainly because I have enormous gorilla hands).

The magazine is bigger than an Mp5 mag, it's quite a chunky monkey. Which is confusing, because the cooldown is awful. Even in a heated shop, about 28C ambient, I could only JUST get an entire mag out in SEMI. Full auto mag dump is just impossible. Even the TM can do a full mag dump on auto.

Also, recoil was eh. The action was sluggish. It also misfed about 5/6 shots on full auto. No misfeeds on semi though.

The biggest single gripe I have about it? It doesn't come with fucking side rails.

Also it really felt like it was made of cheap plastic. I was really taken aback when I picked it up, because it looks nice and sexy, but it feels like a spring pistol. Magazine out I could make the pistol grip flex by squeezing it between my thumb and forefinger.

Stealth · January 21st, 2014, 16:46

That's disappointing. I was really looking forward to this.

Danke · January 21st, 2014, 18:34

Me too; ordered more KWA mags today instead.

Stealth · January 23rd, 2014, 09:54

New video:
AST VFC MP7A1 - YouTube

At least it's not Ed doing the videos...

Tisane · January 23rd, 2014, 12:33

Oops pressed the wrong button.....ohhh well.

Tisane · January 23rd, 2014, 12:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth

New video:
AST VFC MP7A1 - YouTube

At least it's not Ed doing the videos...

Ok so she probably only bashed out 5-10 rounds on auto but that looked very nice to me.

Invasian · January 23rd, 2014, 12:56

Moral of this story: buy TM

Tisane · January 23rd, 2014, 13:03

Yeah right

ccyg8774 · January 26th, 2014, 03:52

Guys, if we go ask Taiwan players that already got this gun, what would be the most important questions regarding its performance and/or potential problems? I don't know enough about GBBs to ask them good questions.

One guy told me he can get 70 rounds full auto with a full mag of gas, I assume he means he emptied a mag of BB in full auto and refill the BBs, and get another 20-30 rounds. Does that sounds too good to be true? And I don't have other informations of his test, such as the temperature and gas type…

Tisane · January 26th, 2014, 08:07

What you want is a definitive answer to this "cooldown" problem that I firmly believe isn't even cooldown!
I think 60-70 shots on auto is optimistic, hell it's optimistic with an M4 sized magazine, but I'm confident with a little lube in the right places these things will easily dump a magazine on auto, maybe with enough left for a few more after a refil.
I will find this out for myself early next week anyway as mine is on a UPS plane as we speak...lol

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January 20th, 2014, 16:17	#16
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	The TM is not 1:1. Reports out of Germany on the VFC are not stellar. Be the guy PH, try out the VFC for Canada. Or get your brother to hookup some trigger time in HK. __________________ Airsoft, where nothing is hurt but feelings.

January 21st, 2014, 16:32	#21
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	Ripped from the headlines in HK held and fired one of these the other day. 28C ambient on greengas with 0.2g bbs. Not impressed, really. It's lighter than the TM. Noticeably lighter, even fully loaded. The plastic quality seems cheap to me, especially compared to the wonderful job VFC did with their G36 GBBrs. The detailing is nice, the trades are nice and the flip up sights are nice. It's also quite nice in the hand, more comfortable than the TM (mainly because I have enormous gorilla hands). The magazine is bigger than an Mp5 mag, it's quite a chunky monkey. Which is confusing, because the cooldown is awful. Even in a heated shop, about 28C ambient, I could only JUST get an entire mag out in SEMI. Full auto mag dump is just impossible. Even the TM can do a full mag dump on auto. Also, recoil was eh. The action was sluggish. It also misfed about 5/6 shots on full auto. No misfeeds on semi though. The biggest single gripe I have about it? It doesn't come with fucking side rails. Also it really felt like it was made of cheap plastic. I was really taken aback when I picked it up, because it looks nice and sexy, but it feels like a spring pistol. Magazine out I could make the pistol grip flex by squeezing it between my thumb and forefinger. __________________ Airsoft, where nothing is hurt but feelings.

January 21st, 2014, 18:34	#23
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	Me too; ordered more KWA mags today instead. __________________ Airsoft, where nothing is hurt but feelings.

January 20th, 2014, 19:54	#17
GBBR Banned Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Toronto	Any VFC GBBR rifle will be shit. they've always been shit, and stay shit no matter the aftermarket parts and support. VFC can make their guns look as beautiful as they can, buy its garbage. 1:1 or not.

January 20th, 2014, 21:27	#18
SuperHog Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Toronto, Ontario	Nice nice nice. Aftermarket companies will take care of defects or bug. The VFC Glock is a beauty.

January 20th, 2014, 22:12	#19
BioRage Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Toronto	Update: Jan 20. WGCShop has them listed for pre-order for $255.00 USD.

January 21st, 2014, 15:33	#20
Tisane Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: UK	Been like that for about a week mate Nearly got enough saved for mine

January 21st, 2014, 16:46	#22
Stealth Mr. Silencer Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto	That's disappointing. I was really looking forward to this.

January 23rd, 2014, 09:54	#24
Stealth Mr. Silencer Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto	New video: AST VFC MP7A1 - YouTube At least it's not Ed doing the videos...

January 23rd, 2014, 12:33	#25
Tisane Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: UK	Oops pressed the wrong button.....ohhh well.

January 23rd, 2014, 12:56	#27
Invasian Likes it BOLD attention whore MAXIMUS! Trader rating Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mtl	Moral of this story: buy TM

January 23rd, 2014, 13:03	#28
Tisane Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: UK	Yeah right

January 26th, 2014, 03:52	#29
ccyg8774 Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Brampton, ON	Guys, if we go ask Taiwan players that already got this gun, what would be the most important questions regarding its performance and/or potential problems? I don't know enough about GBBs to ask them good questions. One guy told me he can get 70 rounds full auto with a full mag of gas, I assume he means he emptied a mag of BB in full auto and refill the BBs, and get another 20-30 rounds. Does that sounds too good to be true? And I don't have other informations of his test, such as the temperature and gas type… __________________ Last edited by ccyg8774; January 26th, 2014 at 03:54..

January 26th, 2014, 08:07	#30
Tisane Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: UK	What you want is a definitive answer to this "cooldown" problem that I firmly believe isn't even cooldown! I think 60-70 shots on auto is optimistic, hell it's optimistic with an M4 sized magazine, but I'm confident with a little lube in the right places these things will easily dump a magazine on auto, maybe with enough left for a few more after a refil. I will find this out for myself early next week anyway as mine is on a UPS plane as we speak...lol

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