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Old May 27th, 2009, 21:45   #31
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"OR, it can also be proposed that the sight is not moving at all, is fixed, and the slide is doing the movement, relative to the barrel and the sight."
That sounds more like what I was trying to say.

1rel·a·tive : a thing having a relation to or connection with or necessary dependence on another thing.
Being that the sight is connected to the barrel and only moves with the barrel - not with the slide.
:banghead: HAHA. We could probably discuss this alone for hours. Good thing we don't talk on the phone. It can't be cheap calling Canada.

The only "article" I've seen on the conversion has been the one I posted.
If Mr. Lam is involved I believe that the grip conversion can be done well.
If I could find a steel SVI grip used/cheap I'd get one and have him hook it up. But I wouldn't touch it myself...unless I had enough money to get another after f-in up the first one
I'd have to guess you'd be looking at around $500 to do this though.
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Old May 27th, 2009, 21:56   #32
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Don't mind Steve... he's just lonely because he has nobody to talk to about all his WAs. LOL
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Old May 27th, 2009, 21:56   #33
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1rel·a·tive : a thing having a relation to or connection with or necessary dependence on another thing.
Being that the sight is connected to the barrel and only moves with the barrel - not with the slide.
Correct, so with that said, the word is used as such:

The sight is NOT moving RELATIVE (connected to) the barrel. This is understood by both of us in the layman term "the sight is fixed to the barrel." Usage of the word "relative", is such that the items are not moving to/from each other through relation.

The two items are connected through relation... the sight is not moving compared to the barrel. If you are the barrel, and I am the sight, and we're shaking hands, we are not moving to or from each other, because we are now related. Unless we're doing a gay jig or dance with each other, it's hard to move "relative" to each other, as long as we are related through that hand shake. (In a micro system viewed from a macro system, even if we WERE doing a gay jig, we would not be moving to/from each other, even though in our little micro system, you and I may sway back and forth from each other or side to side by 1cm. etc.)

However, the slide IS moving RELATIVE to the barrel
So by extension:
IF the sight is not moving relative to the barrel
AND the slide is moving relative to the barrel
THEN it is correct to say that the sight is moving relative to the slide through transitive properties.

Or in the analogy I touched on above, if the slide is represented by the BBs whizzing around you (relative to you), then by extension, they are also moving relative to me, as you and I are connected by shaking hands. I am not moving with the BBs (I can't run 400fps), so it can be said that the BBs are moving relative to me.

I was a physics major. I used this word for 4 years. I hope I used it properly for all that time... LOL.

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Old May 28th, 2009, 22:06   #34
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I agree

But, the whole reason I started this is because you negated the movement of the sight...
saying sight does not move relative to the barrel...

I think this is the way you should have stated it from the start.
"the sight is not moving at all, is fixed, and the slide is doing the movement, relative to the barrel and the sight."
- I agreed with this statement, and your original statement. Only in that I changed the wording based on the variance in the definition of the word relative. Which was the reason for my second statement.
I would normally speak of relative movement referring to the mass that is in motion.
Not negating the movement of the stationary object...because we already know it's stationary.





I am NOT a physics major - therfore you win. I have no idea what I just stated ..... LOL.
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Old May 28th, 2009, 22:17   #35
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Alright. so then it's settled.

The sight doesn't move. The slide moves. The gun looks nice. And now I'm poor. LOL.
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Old May 28th, 2009, 22:26   #36
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Oo oo oo. Does that mean I'll be able to fit a real steel SVI steel cnc'd grip before you????

J/K - I'm poor as crap too.
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Old May 28th, 2009, 22:34   #37
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But you have a steel frame on one of your guns. You win.

THAT'S why you're poor. lol
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