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April 13th, 2006, 15:58 | #1 |
Company that will CNC machine anything
I'm taking Industrial Design (think architecture but we design everything but buildings) and so we do a lot of stuff and learn a lot involving manufacturing. Recently had a friend tell me about this site:
go here and thought it was really interesting. I know we cant get them to make recievers or slides or anything since even if they would, they are located in the states, but I was just considering my M3 shorty tri nozzle problem and if someone could get the design (I suck with 3D modeling programs on my own and we aernt taught how to use em till next year) we could start ordering steel/aluminum CNC machined tri nozzels, that or any number of other parts like extra strong mech boxes, custom scope/light/laser/etc. mounts, or anything else that someone needs custom made. I know there are some people with access to CNC machines on this forum, me included starting next year, but its not so easy to get a lot of parts made if it isnt someones personally owned machine, this company says they will do anywhere from 1 to 1 000 000. Just a thought, throwing it out there. LUTNIT |
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April 13th, 2006, 16:01 | #2 |
There is already a metal tri-nozzle, though, from the States to boot. Give the search engine a try, IIRC there was a group order for it a while back. Dunno how good they were, though.
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April 13th, 2006, 16:04 | #3 | |
I said it in the last thread, and I'll say it again - the cylinder/loading nozzle/piston setup from CA870's.....NO ONE makes replacement parts.
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April 13th, 2006, 16:21 | #4 | |
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I've been talking with several people in PM's about shottys for awhile now and no one mentioned them, even TheToastmaster who seems to know a lot about TM shottys. If I can get a metal trinozzle, I may turn this into a project gun, long term analysis and repairing, depending on price of metal trinozzle. |
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April 13th, 2006, 16:27 | #5 |
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...+shotgun+metal
It appears the company went under, so I guess the market's up for grabs again.
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April 13th, 2006, 17:44 | #6 |
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BTW most any small machine shop that do have cnc will take on any projectif you have the funds. I have access to most machinery and could make just about everything i need to make my own gun. But in the end most of the time invested it's just not worth the effort or cost. Yeah i can get a titanium metal slide for my Hicapa but do i realy want to pay the 700 price tag for it.( yeah i checked and I worked there and would have had to make the slide ouside of my regular shift. So that's 700 for desing, programming, tools and material). Getting someone to make you 1 part or 2 million parts is easy.. financing it and make it worth while is not. CNC is all nice and dandy but remember that most places i've worked charge from 90$ to 300$ an hour for cnc machinig, add the price of material, programing, setup, first run, inspection, deburring and tools and you find that paying 200$ for a metal slide from a canadian retailer is not so bad in the end. So in the end it comes down to just how mutch money you have to donate to the project.
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April 15th, 2006, 15:57 | #7 |
I also have access to a shop, as much as I'd like, (Have to love it when your father is an industrial engineer)
I'm going to be getting a few custom things made for my m4, and my m9. If anyone has something with the dimensions, etc... For the peice, send it my way, I'll see what I can do... Can't promise anything though.
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if you want, send me the specs, and I'll see if I can get the parts you seek (just not able to do the more intricate work.)
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April 16th, 2006, 14:16 | #9 |
I work in a CNC shop and as vondik said, its damn expensive. It's cheaper to go to a tooling shop and get them to make what ever custom part you want on a regular vert mill/lathe. It's still going to cost you a pretty penny. Material, tooling, plus the two or three hours some schmoe clocks onto it.
If you gots the money to blow, give'er. Just search canada411 for "Tooling" shops in your area and call around. I'd sugest you have a quality drawing on Mastercam or Solidworks instead of napkin. cheers |
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April 16th, 2006, 15:25 | #10 |
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Join Date: Dec 2001
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You also get to talk to the machinist and find out if you're designing yourself into a dead end. Solidworks lets you design a lot of shapes that are difficult or impossible to machine. If you're inexperienced, it's difficult to create a properly dimensioned and toleranced drawing for a machinist to work from. Even with a properly dim'd and tol'd drawing, I prefer to meet my machinist and make sure the important features are done right.
In the end, I find that my first drafts on a part are pretty far from right. I machine my own proof of concept parts as I tend to make design changes on the fly when I first see parts coming together. Sometimes I'm turning someting, and I hit an epiphany and think "what was I thinking?!" and make a design adjustment on the spot with the chuck still spinning. It doesn't matter how big your screen is, physical parts have a physical weight that will adjust your perception of how things work.
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April 18th, 2006, 11:41 | #11 |
And now for the bad news...
But wait...there's more!
The good... The bad... ...and the ugly. I'm considering trying them out myself though, if I can get a thorough enough understanding of their capabilities. From what I read, low expectations and about a month of lead time seem to be the key to having a good experience with this service. m
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