Would this flashlight be an over kill?

[-tastic]

Since i play at splatters every weekend and i seriously hate the lighting there
so im just wondering will the XTAR R01 CREE R5 5-mode 800lumens be an over kill?
or should i just get the 400lumens one.

[Daiviet]

Is this a serious question or a bad attempt at being funny?

[Shirley]

You can actually damage peoples eyes...
It's dark for a reason.

[-tastic]

Originally Posted by Daiviet

Is this a serious question or a bad attempt at being funny?

so sorry, not meant to be funny. never used flash light for airsoft my bad, gunna change to a different model

[Ballcancer]

Yea 3800 can actually cause damage to the cornea. My flashlight - i bought one of the armytek predators mainly for the amount of light that it prodces and because i can control the output - is only 500 luman and that is way more than what is needed, But I also use this flashlight for security and a higher output is sometimes needed.

[Daiviet]

If its an honest mistake then don't worry. 3800 Lumens is too much, anything above 500 Lm is unnecessary for indoors, and more than enough for outdoors (in my opinion). I have a 200Lm flashlight and its more than enough for indoors, a bit unnecessary as well. I'm not out to cause damage to optic nerves, i'm just trying to light my way.

[ShelledPants]

There are no rules regarding flash lights for a reason: The human eye is really frigging adapt to adjusting to natural wavelengths of light (flashlights... the sun...)

Hitting a person with 300lumens from pitch blackness will do several things:
1) They will immediately lose all of their natural night vision.
2) They will see a spot in their vision for the next 5-10 minutes.
3) They will close their eyes/squint/look away.
4) They will pour fire at your conveniently located circle of blinding light.

Tactically speaking, indoors, 100 lumens is really all you need. Any more and you're ruining your own vision with backwash from the objects between you and your target.

Outdoors, lumens loosely translate to throw, which means you can see objects hundreds of feet away (way outside of your effect engagement range).

Outdoors, the only time you should ever use a flashlight is when you literally can't see anything. Where the difference between closing your eyes and opening them is none, and even then you should think twice. A flashlight will get you killed at night far more often than it will keep you alive, let alone actually killing someone.

Indoors this is different, properly engaging and disengaging an enemy with a light will keep you alive and prevent them from putting rounds on you. (light on, fire a round, light off, sidestep... as an example). You should not be using the light as a beacon to find an enemy, as you are just that, a beacon of light screaming shoot me.

EDIT: I read his post as 270lumen, and I didn't realize it originally said 3800lumen. That's fucking retarded. Hit me with that in CQB and I'd escort you off the field.

[-tastic]

Originally Posted by Daiviet

If its an honest mistake then don't worry. 3800 Lumens is too much, anything above 500 Lm is unnecessary for indoors, and more than enough for outdoors (in my opinion). I have a 200Lm flashlight and its more than enough for indoors, a bit unnecessary as well. I'm not out to cause damage to optic nerves, i'm just trying to light my way.

yeah, thanks for the heads up i dont wana look like a fool but the lighting in splatters is really really bad

Originally Posted by Ballcancer

Yea 3800 can actually cause damage to the cornea. My flashlight - i bought one of the armytek predators mainly for the amount of light that it prodces and because i can control the output - is only 500 luman and that is way more than what is needed, But I also use this flashlight for security and a higher output is sometimes needed.

oo thanks for the info i think i should stick to the 400 one then. cheers! opcorn:

Originally Posted by ShelledPants

Tactically speaking, indoors, 100 lumens is really all you need. Any more and you're ruining your own vision with backwash from the objects between you and your target.

Outdoors, lumens loosely translate to throw, which means you can see objects hundreds of feet away (way outside of your effect engagement range).

Outdoors, the only time you should ever use a flashlight is when you literally can't see anything. Where the difference between closing your eyes and opening them is none, and even then you should think twice. A flashlight will get you killed at night far more often than it will keep you alive, let alone actually killing someone.

Indoors this is different, properly engaging and disengaging an enemy with a light will keep you alive and prevent them from putting rounds on you. (light on, fire a round, light off, sidestep... as an example). You should not be using the light as a beacon to find an enemy, as you are just that, a beacon of light screaming shoot me.

as expected from shell, very detailed explanation. the reason why i kinda need a flash light is because even with the anti fog goggle + wipe + fan it doesnt help and i also wear glasses so it is pratically not possible to see where im shooting. also the other reason why i need a light is to actually see my gun is shooting properly, i have considered a tracer unit however a few of my friend said it is unnecessary. and sadly about the lumens my first thought was the more the better >.> guess that wasnt the case. and again, thanks for the heads up. really appreciate it. Cheers!

[ShelledPants]

Originally Posted by -TitSwagZ

the reason why i kinda need a flash light is because even with the anti fog goggle + wipe + fan it doesnt help and i also wear glasses so it is pratically not possible to see where im shooting. also the other reason why i need a light is to actually see my gun is shooting properly, i have considered a tracer unit however a few of my friend said it is unnecessary.

Something I've noticed when people are excessively sweating and can't get their goggles to clear.

Wear less gear.

I know guys who have played a long time, and constantly have fogging issues, they have known working anti-fog, good goggles, and fans. But they wear an armor carrier, a softshell, a wool beenie, and thermal underwear. They are warm when they play (even when they stand still) but they overheat, and the only exposed skin is on their face.

Their face gets red, they sweat from their head, and their goggles instantly fog.

The trick is to wear less shit.

Armor carrier? Get a chest rig.
BDU, underarmor, softshell? Dump the shit between you and the softshell.
Go underarmor and softshell. Or t-shirt and BDU. (This is assuming you're not exposed to the weather. Layer properly to pull sweat from the skin layer and exhust it through breathable outer layers.

Wool beanie? I actually like this, I wear one and when I get hot I pull it off to quickly vent head heat and prevent fogging. Need vented protection? Get a protech helmet. Dump the hats. Or if you want a hat, wear it backwards to prevent heat build up between the top of your mask and your hat brim.

Using a light to counter act fog will keep you in the respawn and covered in welts.

[-tastic]

Originally Posted by ShelledPants

Something I've noticed when people are excessively sweating and can't get their goggles to clear.

Wear less gear.

I know guys who have played a long time, and constantly have fogging issues, they have known working anti-fog, good goggles, and fans. But they wear an armor carrier, a softshell, a wool beenie, and thermal underwear. They are warm when they play (even when they stand still) but they overheat, and the only exposed skin is on their face.

Their face gets red, they sweat from their head, and their goggles instantly fog.

The trick is to wear less shit.

Armor carrier? Get a chest rig.
BDU, underarmor, softshell? Dump the shit between you and the softshell.
Go underarmor and softshell. Or t-shirt and BDU. (This is assuming you're not exposed to the weather. Layer properly to pull sweat from the skin layer and exhust it through breathable outer layers.

Wool beanie? I actually like this, I wear one and when I get hot I pull it off to quickly vent head heat and prevent fogging. Need vented protection? Get a protech helmet. Dump the hats. Or if you want a hat, wear it backwards to prevent heat build up between the top of your mask and your hat brim.

Using a light to counter act fog will keep you in the respawn and covered in welts.

thanks shell, maybe it is time to dump all the gears, however im still going to purchase a flashlight just incase. and all the info you provided, much appreciated :Popcorn:

should have slap this post in the newb section xD

[Gunny_McSmith]

Originally Posted by ShelledPants

Something I've noticed when people are excessively sweating and can't get their goggles to clear.

Wear less gear.

I know guys who have played a long time, and constantly have fogging issues, they have known working anti-fog, good goggles, and fans. But they wear an armor carrier, a softshell, a wool beenie, and thermal underwear. They are warm when they play (even when they stand still) but they overheat, and the only exposed skin is on their face.

Their face gets red, they sweat from their head, and their goggles instantly fog.

The trick is to wear less shit.

Armor carrier? Get a chest rig.
BDU, underarmor, softshell? Dump the shit between you and the softshell.
Go underarmor and softshell. Or t-shirt and BDU. (This is assuming you're not exposed to the weather. Layer properly to pull sweat from the skin layer and exhust it through breathable outer layers.

Wool beanie? I actually like this, I wear one and when I get hot I pull it off to quickly vent head heat and prevent fogging. Need vented protection? Get a protech helmet. Dump the hats. Or if you want a hat, wear it backwards to prevent heat build up between the top of your mask and your hat brim.

Using a light to counter act fog will keep you in the respawn and covered in welts.

Not only that, wearing excessive gear when you dont need too, and when you are not trained to carry as much stuff on you, could cause severe dehydration, and they could even pass out on the field!


But yeha, back to topic... 3K lumen is alot + batteries are going to die on you pretty fast + I wouldnt hold a 3K lumens flashlight for very long in my hands... they get really hot pretty fast!....

[-tastic]

Originally Posted by Gunny_McSmith

But yeha, back to topic... 3K lumen is alot + batteries are going to die on you pretty fast + I wouldnt hold a 3K lumens flashlight for very long in my hands... they get really hot pretty fast!....

yeah, i pretty much screwed it up at the beginning. not gunna lie, at first i was like hm... the more the better xD

[HackD]

3800 lumens .. are you planning on growing a crop in your closet, or are you playing CQB?

[-tastic]

Originally Posted by HackD

3800 lumens .. are you planning on growing a crop in your closet, or are you playing CQB?

haha, that was a good gone, nah i screwed up on the lumens at the beginning but thanks to you guys i know what flashlight i am getting xD

[Kozzie]

Good old titswags, your posts always make me laugh.