Was that airsoft?

Drache · February 4th, 2011, 09:48

Im watching the last episode of the first season of Lock N' Load with R. Lee Ermey and it's titled Bunk Busters.

Anyways he's watching some US Army guys story a building after be blows the door open.

The guns the US Army guys are going in with appear to be airsoft; Orange collared tips, paintball masks, and they even sound like them

Anyone else see this episode?

Gunk · February 4th, 2011, 10:06

*storm* a building?

Or is Story a building what you call it when there's two floors? Or made of Gingerbread?

SniperSam · February 4th, 2011, 10:08

Know, they use special markers; they work on the principle of airsoft, but use a HPA variant with dye loaded water-washable BBs. Usually however they use blue tipped guns

ex · February 4th, 2011, 10:15

Simunition probably.

L473ncy · February 4th, 2011, 10:20

Could be PTW's..... I mean they ARE "Professional Training Weapons" designed for Law Enforcement and Military simulation after all.

abbadon · February 4th, 2011, 10:49

X2 Simunition. shit hurts like a muther

Gerkraz · February 4th, 2011, 11:17

I accidentally a building. Is this bad?

medhatboy · February 4th, 2011, 19:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by abbadon

X2 Simunition. shit hurts like a muther

Hear ya on that, I think I still have bruises from that crap, and it's been 4 years since I last used it.

mr_nuts31 · February 5th, 2011, 21:31

those are simuntion rounds, aka rubber bullets. A lot of people who use them will tell you not only they are painful, but it can be lethal within a certain distance

Amos · February 5th, 2011, 23:57

simunition isn't rubber bullets.

They're sponge or wax balls covered with blue chalk.

Eeyore · February 5th, 2011, 23:59

And like already said they fucking hurt like a bitch. Balistic grade masks and full helmets are required.

medhatboy · February 6th, 2011, 08:39

As well as throat and groin protectors. And i've seen these things make the large, thick, leg pocket buttons explode on impact.

ToRN · February 6th, 2011, 13:02

"Unfortunately, we cannot shoot each other with the (9mm)Sim rds today, since the batch is expired" .....When do we get to the fresh stuff?

In addition to this, we are not allowed (in Edmonton anyway) to shoot each other with 5.56 Sim at all.

Nic

QKLee11 · February 6th, 2011, 21:12

I know personally the American National Guard in Buffalo uses Airsoft for trg purposes...ie CQB...cheaper then brass

Drache · February 7th, 2011, 13:31

Hey I was right, it WAS airsoft!

FORT JACKSON, S.C. -- What began as a popular form of civilian entertainment is being tested on Fort Jackson as a possible new way to train Soldiers preparing to head to a combat zone.

The 187th Ordnance Battalion is operating a pilot program designed to test the feasibility of using Airsoft weapons to train Soldiers to cope with real-world combat situations such as forward operating base operations and force protection. Airsoft weapons are replicas of their military counterparts, but fire plastic pellets instead of bullets. Airsoft is widely used by civilians who enjoy organizing military simulations and historical reenactments.

Training cadre with the 187th Ord. Bn. are finding that Airsoft is an ideal way to teach Soldiers valuable lessons about combat.

"It gives them more realistic, outcome-based training," said Sgt. 1st Class Richard Hunt, module chief for the battalion. "Now they know when they get hit during a training exercise."

The battalion has been using Airsoft weapons since the spring at its Field Training Exercise site where soldiers learn basic combat tactics in an urban environment. Like Hunt, all of the cadre at the FTX site are combat veterans. Hunt said the Airsoft weapons give the training another level of sophistication and realism that is hard to attain with other training tools such as the Multiple Integrated Laser Engagement System, which has been in use for years.

Soldiers at the 187th Ord. Bn. FTX site practice reflexive fire and other tactical skills while armed with Airsoft M-4s, M-9s and M-249s, the weapons they most likely will use in combat. While practicing tactical movements, such as clearing rooms or exiting a vehicle in an ambush, the Soldiers come under fire from Airsoft weapons. The feedback is instant if a Soldier makes a mistake.

"I got hit and it stung a little bit," Pvt. Joshua Kolometz said after undergoing reflexive fire training. "This gives you a realistic feel of what combat will be like."

That's exactly what the Airsoft training program is intended to impart, said Company B's 1st Sgt. Chris Arnold. "This has a huge impact on training realism," Arnold said. "If you make a mistake during training, you know you've made a mistake."

Maj. Benjamin Kratz, the battalion's executive officer, said data is being collected on Fort Jackson's Airsoft pilot program so that it can be determined if it should be implemented Army wide. Kratz said initial data shows that Airsoft ammunition is much cheaper to use in training than the traditional blank ammunition used with MILES or equipping weapons with specially-designed bolts to fire paintball rounds. Kratz said one blank M-16 round costs as much as 32 Airsoft rounds. The Airsoft rounds used on Fort Jackson are biodegradable, which is a benefit over using traditional blank rounds.

"We go through a lot of blank rounds here on Fort Jackson," Kratz said. "What the data doesn't show yet is how long the Airsoft weapons last and how much the replacement parts and other ongoing costs are."

Kratz said the Airsoft training so far has accomplished what was intended.

"This is the last stop before Soldiers go to their gaining units downrange," he said. "What they learn here will save lives."

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February 4th, 2011, 09:48	#1
Drache BALLET, TYPE: SELF LOATHING, ANALBURST Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2005	Was that airsoft? Im watching the last episode of the first season of Lock N' Load with R. Lee Ermey and it's titled Bunk Busters. Anyways he's watching some US Army guys story a building after be blows the door open. The guns the US Army guys are going in with appear to be airsoft; Orange collared tips, paintball masks, and they even sound like them Anyone else see this episode?

February 4th, 2011, 10:06	#2
Gunk In his Trunk! Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mostly Canada	storm a building? Or is Story a building what you call it when there's two floors? Or made of Gingerbread? __________________ "War must be, while we defend our lives against a destroyer who would devour all; but I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend: the city of the Men of Numenor, and I would have her loved for her memory, her ancientry, her beauty, and her present wisdom. Not feared, save as men may fear the dignity of a man, old and wise." - J.R.R. Tolkien

February 4th, 2011, 10:08	#3
SniperSam Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Edmonton, AB	Know, they use special markers; they work on the principle of airsoft, but use a HPA variant with dye loaded water-washable BBs. Usually however they use blue tipped guns __________________ Proud Member of the Strelok society Whoa guy with the thumb rings, save some pussy for the rest of us Welcome to Bed Bath and Beyoncé, if you find anything you like, put a ring on it. What idiot called them Black Bears instead of African Abearicans

February 4th, 2011, 10:15	#4
ex Wanna buy some Nod's? #StolenValour Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ottawa	Simunition probably. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

February 4th, 2011, 10:20	#5
L473ncy Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: 11-30-24-1W5	Could be PTW's..... I mean they ARE "Professional Training Weapons" designed for Law Enforcement and Military simulation after all. __________________ ಠ_ಠLess QQ more Pew Pew READY TO >> RACE

February 4th, 2011, 10:49	#6
abbadon Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: petawawa	X2 Simunition. shit hurts like a muther __________________ Semper Gumby Always Flexible

February 4th, 2011, 11:17	#7
Gerkraz Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland	I accidentally a building. Is this bad?

February 5th, 2011, 21:31	#9
mr_nuts31 Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Petawawa, ON	those are simuntion rounds, aka rubber bullets. A lot of people who use them will tell you not only they are painful, but it can be lethal within a certain distance

February 5th, 2011, 23:57	#10
Amos Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Japan	simunition isn't rubber bullets. They're sponge or wax balls covered with blue chalk. __________________ Custom Builds: FA3674U Krinkov G3SD6

February 6th, 2011, 08:39	#12
medhatboy formerly Swatt Five-Six Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Medicine Hat, Alberta	As well as throat and groin protectors. And i've seen these things make the large, thick, leg pocket buttons explode on impact. __________________ Medicine Hat Airsoft - Home of the Cypress County Tactical Airsoft Team

February 6th, 2011, 21:12	#14
QKLee11 Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Toronto	I know personally the American National Guard in Buffalo uses Airsoft for trg purposes...ie CQB...cheaper then brass

February 7th, 2011, 13:31	#15
Drache BALLET, TYPE: SELF LOATHING, ANALBURST Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2005	Hey I was right, it WAS airsoft! FORT JACKSON, S.C. -- What began as a popular form of civilian entertainment is being tested on Fort Jackson as a possible new way to train Soldiers preparing to head to a combat zone. The 187th Ordnance Battalion is operating a pilot program designed to test the feasibility of using Airsoft weapons to train Soldiers to cope with real-world combat situations such as forward operating base operations and force protection. Airsoft weapons are replicas of their military counterparts, but fire plastic pellets instead of bullets. Airsoft is widely used by civilians who enjoy organizing military simulations and historical reenactments. Training cadre with the 187th Ord. Bn. are finding that Airsoft is an ideal way to teach Soldiers valuable lessons about combat. "It gives them more realistic, outcome-based training," said Sgt. 1st Class Richard Hunt, module chief for the battalion. "Now they know when they get hit during a training exercise." The battalion has been using Airsoft weapons since the spring at its Field Training Exercise site where soldiers learn basic combat tactics in an urban environment. Like Hunt, all of the cadre at the FTX site are combat veterans. Hunt said the Airsoft weapons give the training another level of sophistication and realism that is hard to attain with other training tools such as the Multiple Integrated Laser Engagement System, which has been in use for years. Soldiers at the 187th Ord. Bn. FTX site practice reflexive fire and other tactical skills while armed with Airsoft M-4s, M-9s and M-249s, the weapons they most likely will use in combat. While practicing tactical movements, such as clearing rooms or exiting a vehicle in an ambush, the Soldiers come under fire from Airsoft weapons. The feedback is instant if a Soldier makes a mistake. "I got hit and it stung a little bit," Pvt. Joshua Kolometz said after undergoing reflexive fire training. "This gives you a realistic feel of what combat will be like." That's exactly what the Airsoft training program is intended to impart, said Company B's 1st Sgt. Chris Arnold. "This has a huge impact on training realism," Arnold said. "If you make a mistake during training, you know you've made a mistake." Maj. Benjamin Kratz, the battalion's executive officer, said data is being collected on Fort Jackson's Airsoft pilot program so that it can be determined if it should be implemented Army wide. Kratz said initial data shows that Airsoft ammunition is much cheaper to use in training than the traditional blank ammunition used with MILES or equipping weapons with specially-designed bolts to fire paintball rounds. Kratz said one blank M-16 round costs as much as 32 Airsoft rounds. The Airsoft rounds used on Fort Jackson are biodegradable, which is a benefit over using traditional blank rounds. "We go through a lot of blank rounds here on Fort Jackson," Kratz said. "What the data doesn't show yet is how long the Airsoft weapons last and how much the replacement parts and other ongoing costs are." Kratz said the Airsoft training so far has accomplished what was intended. "This is the last stop before Soldiers go to their gaining units downrange," he said. "What they learn here will save lives."

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