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August 31st, 2010, 23:46 | #16 | |
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Works REALLY well on a NBB like the MK23 though. |
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August 31st, 2010, 23:51 | #17 |
a.k.a. Palucol
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o ok, and how about a gbbr? like a WA m4? (same thing right? but with a bolt instead of a slide...)
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September 1st, 2010, 02:44 | #18 |
silencers are really misnamed. They should be called sound signature changers. You will never get that james bond pew pew. And even in real steel the sound of the action will persist.
real steel how ever you have more sound to start with. We use sub sonic ammo already so there is no noise from that and a puff of air is not going to compare to gun powder. how ever silencers do work in the way that they change how the sound sounds. More of a thump in aegs and a bit harder to locate. |
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September 1st, 2010, 08:53 | #19 | |
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Hehe, my MK23 doesn't really make a clackity clack sound, is more like a loud CLANG! |
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September 1st, 2010, 10:00 | #20 |
Tys
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The NBB MK23 with a can is pretty much silent...from the target's perspective all you hear is a click.
With a GBBR...some things will change the signature, others won't. i.e. the sound adjustable Fire Pig will change the sound of the rifle (far more than it does with AEGs). On a GBBR, suppressors don't do much of anything overall except to look cool. There's a ton of gas escaping the action with every shot...and the bolt makes quite a racket on it's own. The report of a GBBR is much more dependant on the atmospheric conditions and surrounding vegetation. With some conditions the sound is really deadened and more of a loud cough, with others it's more of a sharp pafft/clank. |
September 1st, 2010, 10:13 | #21 |
the NBB MK23 is a demon with a silencer, but then almost all NBB guns will be, plus you wont have problems due to the silencer weight (expect to have to use a small lightweight silencer rather then a big-ol AEG can)
my WA para has a threaded barrel and i have a super light-weight silencer but i don't use it for fear of the barrel chamber breaking (happened once before and i don't have spares for this pre-SCW gun) it applies a fair bit of extra torque having to cycle the action with a lump of metal on the end of the barrel. if the gun in question has a fixed barrel then you won't have any issues. GBBR + Good silencer sounds (fairly close) to a real rifle running subsonic rounds with silencer (action sounds will vary)
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September 1st, 2010, 10:18 | #22 |
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The KSC M11A1 is by far the most effective GBB with a suppressor on, simply due to the fact that the bolt is internal and most of the noise comes out the muzzle. With the suppressor on mine, all you really hear when shooting it is the bolt clacking back and forth, which is a huge difference compared to the loud 'BRAAAAAPPPP!!!' without a suppressor.
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September 1st, 2010, 10:22 | #23 |
When I had the M11A1 it doesn't seem to make that much of a difference....
Not sure what you meant by bolt being internal though.... Marushin Ruger MK1 with the integral suppressor works ok as far as noise goes, only if it can shoot for shit...That is a NBB also. |
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September 1st, 2010, 10:37 | #24 | |
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The bolt is internal, only the side is exposed through the ejection port. But the nature of it, bolt slides forward, hits the gas relesase valve, most of the gas goes down the barrel and it doesn't take much to make the bolt return to the open position. |
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September 1st, 2010, 10:42 | #25 |
Ah ok. The stock G&P made suppressor probably wasn't made like that....
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