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Old February 2nd, 2010, 14:26   #31
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Hmm first leak I've heard for prowinhk I'm still waiting for my mags. Use silicon oil, don't use ai for gas adapter, it's too light, grenadeboil might work
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Old February 2nd, 2010, 14:33   #32
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Hmm first leak I've heard for prowinhk I'm still waiting for my mags. Use silicon oil, don't use ai for gas adapter, it's too light, grenadeboil might work
grenadeboil?

I think I red somewhere that someone took apart the valve. lubing it, then replaced it and it fixed the problem. I don't want to break or loos something on this tho lol.
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Old February 2nd, 2010, 17:02   #33
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grenadeboil?

I think I red somewhere that someone took apart the valve. lubing it, then replaced it and it fixed the problem. I don't want to break or loos something on this tho lol.
LOL... I think he meant "Grenade Oil", as in AI Tornado Grenade Oil. It's much thicker than the light weight silicone oil that comes with the AI GunGas kit.

If that's what he was trying to say, let's try re-wording kullwarrior's statement in to English:

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Hmm first leak I've heard for the ProWin magazine.

I'm still waiting for my mags.

Use thicker silicon oil, don't use the AI Light Weight Silicone Oil that comes with their gas adapter, it's too light

AI Tornado Grenade Oil might work, though.
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Old February 2nd, 2010, 17:09   #34
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LOL ok thanks ILLusion :P

Well i just unscrewed the valve and re screw it and now it doesn't leak anymore. Pretty weird.

Those mags are nothing like the GHK one I have. WAY better.
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Old February 2nd, 2010, 17:32   #35
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could just be that the valve wasn't tighten all the way...
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Old February 2nd, 2010, 19:02   #36
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Will try to post a short review tomorrow once the testing is done.

I am actually in love with those so far lol.
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Old February 2nd, 2010, 19:54   #37
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Guys,

Will this mag work on my ACM? apparently my ACM Gbbr is magna base like AGM?
are this type of mag not restricted?
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Old February 2nd, 2010, 19:57   #38
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Guys,

Will this mag work on my ACM? apparently my ACM Gbbr is magna base like AGM?
are this type of mag not restricted?
Non Restricted and can't tell how well it will fit on a ACM.
Buy one and try it, if it doesn't fit well then sell it here :P
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Old February 2nd, 2010, 19:59   #39
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Got my 3 mags, first thing, these thing looks quality. I also have a hissing mag out of the 3. The fill valve O-ring is not seated properly. Once reseated it is fine. Haven't chronoed yet, but the the blow back is strong. The WOC with RA-T BCG works fine, but have trouble inserting(and pressing the mag release) with the bolt forward. No problem locks back or cycling. Not sure what I want to do yet since I am worry if I trim the mag catch it'll make it worse with other mags I have.

The really annoying part so far is the loading lip. My TM pistol BB loader does not work with this. I can only load one by one. Might take a file and modify the lip a little bit.

Will do some quantitative testing later...
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Old February 2nd, 2010, 20:03   #40
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Old February 2nd, 2010, 21:20   #41
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I'll report some finding right now....I'll have a compiled spreadsheet later.

These mags are pretty good. I think RA-T's comment is accurate. FPS wise they are not that high. In my test the 15 shot average is lower than my WA Super and stock WOC mags, but higher than Bomber. Their shot to shot variation is comparable to both. But where they excel is the rate of fire. Not exactly sure what is the key variance that controls this since I am testing it on the same gun(valve lock, maybe?). Their average Round/sec is 1 rps higher than the the next highest mag(one of the WOC mag).

I did not conduct a full mag dump of the max fill and see if it can empty it(I did with the others), since it was taking forever to fill these....

For $60 something, they are much better than Bomber and almost as good as WA mags....
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Old February 2nd, 2010, 21:27   #42
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So you'd say that the WA Super is still better than proWin?

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Old February 2nd, 2010, 21:32   #43
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Yes, but not $60 better....lol

And if you want to fit ranger plate and such, the ProWin mag works with that(I think). The do need some personal touches though, the magcatch point I am not sure how to address it for myself yet. And the BB lip, I will probably file it. If their supply is plentiful, these "should" be the best performance/cost mag to buy...
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Old February 13th, 2010, 01:26   #44
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I just got my pro-win and test it today...
Semi Auto -10 degrees works fine, for 30 round Make sure you wear gloves for the mags....AND DO NOT TOUCH the receiver if you have Ino or Prime. I took it back in my house for storage and I handle it gloves off, got frostbite (fire about 90 rounds dryfire)

Damn, this is really good drawing heat...no wonder it can function under such temperature.
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Old February 13th, 2010, 07:56   #45
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Will prowin do mags for WE are only for WA/G&P/Ino?
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