Classic Army Sportline

[dodger_me]

I have seen a few jg's go wacky as well, but for the most part i think they have a good track record. Im pretty sure anyone that wants a clone goes for jg or a and k right now. my problem is choosing which one...

[LUTNIT]

I have never heard of an Echo1 going sour though, just a thought.

[dodger_me]

i know of 1 or 2 that were lemons but i mean that was a simple return and 1 other that broke in like a day(Dumbasses that dont know how to take care of a gun, aka emptying a boxmag at cyclic rate....

[Aquamarine]

Originally Posted by Dracheous

Don't forget the Japanese Market where metal bodies not allowed.

I don't mean to sound like a retard here, but where did this information come from and/or when did this law come into effect? Echigoya Tokyo sold me four metal bodies for M4's and ordered in and installed my metal G3-SG1 body in 2006. Even the little shop ANGS in Yokohama carries metal bodies to this day.

[BBS]

i think the only regulation in japan is the limited fps. (300 fps max?)

[Aquamarine]

Originally Posted by BBS

i think the only regulation in japan is the limited fps. (300 fps max?)

No, you are 100% wrong. It has to do with joules, not fps. The guns can not fire over and above 0.98 joules.

[Skruface]

1 joules = 328 FPS with .2's IIRC....

[ILLusion]

Originally Posted by Aquamarine

I don't mean to sound like a retard here, but where did this information come from and/or when did this law come into effect? Echigoya Tokyo sold me four metal bodies for M4's and ordered in and installed my metal G3-SG1 body in 2006. Even the little shop ANGS in Yokohama carries metal bodies to this day.

I was also under the impression that Japanese laws disallowed OEM guns to be manufactured and sold with metal receivers, but then the Type-89 pretty much completely nullified that idea.

[Aquamarine]

Yep, heck, even Armored Gallery in Shibuya and the Western Arms Shibuya shop sell metal bodies (well, Armored Gallery sells the bodies for AEG's and we all know what kind of metal parts Western Arms sells...)

[tunabreath]

I was under the impression that the "no metal" law was with regards to pistol slides (but frames are ok), as the result of a study indicating that (fairly obviously) the majority of gun crime was committed using a handgun, so making airsoft pistols externally identical to real ones was the problem (although really, you're getting awful close with plastic anyways).

All hearsay though, so take it with a grain of salt.

[ILLusion]

I think the issue with pistols is that if you put a metal slide on it, then it almost instantly becomes capable of shooting with stronger gasses which will almost always put it over the 0.98 Joule limit.

[ancorp]

Wasn\'t the Type 89 made full metal because it was a training tool for the military, export only? Doesn\'t explain the AUG, the M14, or the AK-74M though...

But there has to be SOME law.

[jtjcheng]

Nah...I would rather go for a full-metal CA...