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need_a_name March 4th, 2012 18:09

We hi-capa's v4.3
 
alrigth well, toronto airsoft is having a sale and there pistols are at a price that i can afford. I am gone tonigh to a hand ball practise and will probably buy the pistol afterwards so i have no time to research.. just got back from a trip.. didn't have time then... so iam just wondering for 150, is a We 4.3 Hi-capa worth it. how long will it last if i take care of it and the pros and cons of it, it would be greatly apreciated.

-name

MaybeStopCalling March 4th, 2012 18:14

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...gy#post1437410

Get AV'd. Better options.

need_a_name March 5th, 2012 09:41

i know that by getting age verified i can obtain many more products that are better, however i am just asking how good of a product We hi-capa's are. would it be better if i go with a kjw 1911 meu? like how long is the We's product life span?

Jakkal March 5th, 2012 13:32

As far as the Hicapa goes, I've heard they're pretty decent units. $150 will be a decent price. I've fired them and the kick is nice.

I don't particularly endorse TOAirsoft because of my past experiances with them. I will caution you however about holsters. The mag release button on the hicapa is a bit long, and my buddy didn't watch his mags when playing and one popped right out of his gun on the field, never to be found.

Hope it helps.

Styrak March 5th, 2012 13:47

The WE clear receivers have a habit of breaking/cracking after not much use. Not worth it because the gun becomes useless after.

jamex March 5th, 2012 14:14

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Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 1616521)
The WE clear receivers have a habit of breaking/cracking after not much use. Not worth it because the gun becomes useless after.

^^^^ This. The problem with the plastic frame is it becomes brittle in a few areas, and lubing plastic on metal for the slide kinda blows....doesn't seem quite right to me. Having said that, at that price its hard to pass up.

Just a heads up, the PX4 is a nicer gun at that price but is sold out. It has a tinted plastic lower, but the frame is reinforced with metal, and the slide mounts to metal rails. Its not really made by WE, but everyone just refers to it as a WE gun. It has some barrel wobble but at these prices what do you expect :)

Hope that helps.

need_a_name March 5th, 2012 17:28

so like many of you stated the lower reciever cracks, is there any replacement ones or metal ones that i could buy, if so how much would of those run me by and would it be worth it being those externals for the internals that are in, like would it be a waste for how well the pitol preforms?

MultipleParadox March 5th, 2012 17:52

You're bettor off getting a Tokyo Marui right away, their frame's are Metal (watchout for the few batches of "canadian legal" TM that got in Canada not so long ago, they're in plastic and really not that much cheaper)

A pistol frame is prohibited from import, and buying one in Canada will cost you probably between 300$ to 500$; yep, more than the pistol's price (they are "upgrade parts" mostly, so better quality, better tolerance, etc)

need_a_name March 5th, 2012 18:28

alrigth well besides the cracking body is there any big problemes internally with this gun, how long do these usualy last?

Strelok March 5th, 2012 19:03

... Just don't waste your money.

ILLusion March 5th, 2012 19:46

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Originally Posted by MultipleParadox (Post 1616681)
A pistol frame is prohibited from import, and buying one in Canada will cost you probably between 300$ to 500$; yep, more than the pistol's price (they are "upgrade parts" mostly, so better quality, better tolerance, etc)

That information's false. You can get an OEM Tokyo Marui metal frame for $150, which would essentially turn the WE in to a full metal gun for $300. Not bad if you're looking for metal on a budget.

Only if you're buying an aftermarket upgraded frame will it cost you significantly more money, but it's not worth it to put such parts on a WE, IMO.

Quote:

Originally Posted by need_a_name (Post 1616698)
alrigth well besides the cracking body is there any big problemes internally with this gun, how long do these usualy last?

That depends... the WE I got had a cracked frame right out of the box, so for me, it effectively lasted zero minutes. LOL

Freeze March 8th, 2012 13:11

For one that didn't crack on arrival....will probably last you about 3 mags before a huge noticeable crack appears.

I'm on my second clear frame thanks to warranty. The part where the hammer hits eventually snapped off and the corner had a huge crack, but then I filed it down to the point where it doesn't contact anymore. Now it just hits the back of the slide...and doesn't sound too healthy. This is not a long term solution though, you will definitely need a new frame at this point.

I'm not sure if this is a generic Hi-Capa problem or not, but my gun showed a problem with the seating of the magazine. It works fine if the magazine is pushed up into the gun and held there, but otherwise, it doesn't load the next shot.

There's my $0.02 and somewhat of a warning for clear frames.

TaroBear March 8th, 2012 13:44

Lol, Freeze, you broke another one already?

need_a_name March 8th, 2012 18:03

alrigth well i see that many other companies use a clear bottom receiver like kjw, is there plastic better quality or if i go with a different pistol will i encounter the same probleme?

Curo March 8th, 2012 18:09

Getting AV'd can get you access to sexier TM Hi-capas. I'm sorry I know you've heard this before, but being AV'd is just that much better.

Styrak March 8th, 2012 18:26

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Originally Posted by need_a_name (Post 1618648)
alrigth well i see that many other companies use a clear bottom receiver like kjw, is there plastic better quality or if i go with a different pistol will i encounter the same probleme?

It's mainly a problem with the Hicapa because it's meant to have a metal midframe. Other pistols can have plastic lower receivers, but there's always metal reinforcing inside, like the rails the slide travels on.
The WE plastic midframe was/is just a really stupid idea.

Freeze March 9th, 2012 21:03

@Tarobear: Yes...I broke another one already....I just gave up on it.

@Styrak: It's not a stupid idea. It's a scam for poor newbies like me -.-"

need_a_name March 10th, 2012 20:53

well i'd like to thank all of you very much, funny how my dad handed me his credit card and i was clicks away to getting the hi-capa when i decided to make a visit on the forums. you guys saved wallet from being lighter hahah. anywas i was looking over on buyairsoft and they have the kjw mkI, before i never really wanted it because well it had no blowback and it was just not apealing to me, however looking it over again it sudenly became extremely sexy, (and affordable without a sale). so i was just wondering whats the quality of the mkI and is it better than the We's hi-capa's?

Styrak March 10th, 2012 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freeze (Post 1619354)
@Styrak: It's not a stupid idea. It's a scam for poor newbies like me -.-"

Yes, it is a stupid idea.

MaybeStopCalling March 11th, 2012 01:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 1619907)
Yes, it is a stupid idea.

Stupid idea, alright. Below a certain amount of stress, the life of a component will be infinite. Without changing the dimensions and moving towards a lighter, softer, material, the life expectancy will become, much, much lower.

OP, I have a feeling you're not 18. Wait until you're 18, buy something proper that you want, not because it's what you can get. I can assure you it will pay off in the long run. If you're over 18... just get AV'ed, damn it.


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