When I was at the Ohio Airsoft Expo I got to take a closer look at one, here is a Pic of My Gf holding the 417. I wish I was able to tell you guys more about it, but the Umarex guys were very busy and we didn't have a lot of time to talk with them.

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Do you know if the 416c was a GBBR or AEG?

It was an AEG.

it will be a GBBR version, according to the VFC 2012 catalog...

In addition, the ETA for airsoftGI is July 14 and they are taking pre-orders now....

want to buy hk417 so bad....

From what I could understand from the VFC catalog, it looks like there will be two versions for both the 416 and 417, a GBBR and AEG version?? However ASGI only has the 417 AEG listed currently

WGC has preorders up for the VFC M27 IAR as well. GBBR

The 417 has a proprietary gear box; it's elongated into the grip, if memory serves. I still might try to pick one up, but I'm on the fence about it right now.

according to ASGI.. 1 month till it is released. (july 14th)

yes.. dont know what asgi is going to carry.... but it seems both 416 and 417 has age and gbbr from the catalog

Vfc hk417 video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj20qDOP0MM

I wonder if he ever noticed that the rear sight is mounted backwards.

I suppose it's only fitting that he have an Infinity Ward special to go with the MW2 mask.

That aside, thing looks solid.

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Well I have just watched two reviews and breakdowns of the VFC 417 and boy do I want one bad. They just need to write the FPS on the ASGI site and then I will order one. 450 fps is too high so I will definately lower the fps with a new spring.

Is there a longer version available out there somewhere?

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Well I have just come back from NY state with a buddy of mine who had pre-ordered the 417 from ASGI. They gave him a really hard time with all the trades on the gun but they still late it through.
I have to say with all honesty its the probably the most solid airsoft gun I have seen. It's freaking gorgeous, and not as large as thought it was going to be! The Stock and the mag are stunning! This gun just feels right in the hand but not on the wallet! I have to save a bit before i get one , and oh im getting one!

What about mags any word on how easy/impossible it will be to get mags.