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Old April 8th, 2008, 02:49   #1
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'GHOST IN THE MACHINE" ( ics electrical gremlin )

here is a vid of my dilema. any help would be appreciated.

http://files.filefront.com/six4+and+.../fileinfo.html

as far as the broken piston goes,,,,

im not concerned with the piston breakage just yet as it is almost 3 years old. what i am wondering is if the recently installed parts of madbull m110 spring,modify stainless steel cylinder head,and polycarbonate bearing piston head have attributed to the piston breakage. if so,,what piston would be the best for my application?

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Old April 8th, 2008, 04:25   #2
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Im don't really know but Did you look at the Cut Off LEVER and the little spring on the Selector Plate for it. The little spring mite need a little strech.

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Old April 8th, 2008, 07:07   #3
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Does it fire every time when you put a shielded screw driver or something similar between the both contacts? (Warning: may spark!)
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Old April 9th, 2008, 23:54   #4
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i may have figured it out. see the below video,,

http://files.filefront.com/o1wmv/;99.../fileinfo.html

i also tested the motor with just the battery and some leads connected to alligator clips with the same result,,i still had to physicly turn the motor by hand before it would turn on battery power. just to be sure and before i buy another motor,,is this motor dead?
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Old April 10th, 2008, 00:02   #5
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i may have figured it out. see the below video,,

http://files.filefront.com/o1wmv/;99.../fileinfo.html

i also tested the motor with just the battery and some leads connected to alligator clips with the same result,,i still had to physicly turn the motor by hand before it would turn on battery power. just to be sure and before i buy another motor,,is this motor dead?
Sounds like your motor has a dead spot, see if you can borrow a motor from some one to test with... I'm almost positive that's what your problem is.
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Old April 10th, 2008, 00:04   #6
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Im not a expert on the electronic parts, but I have had the same problem you have here, but with my AK. The motor might be just be dead.


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Old April 10th, 2008, 00:19   #7
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Thats definitely the motor
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Old April 10th, 2008, 00:26   #8
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Take the leads off the motor, and wire the motor DIRECTLY to the battery to isolate it from the trigger to make sure it IS the motor. With how you have that motor strapped down should be easy enough. Otherwise I think you have your culprit
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Old April 10th, 2008, 00:35   #9
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[QUOTE= With how you have that motor strapped down should be easy enough. [/QUOTE]


gotta love electrical tape eh!
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Old April 10th, 2008, 00:36   #10
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Yeah, borrow a motor/swap from another aeg you may own and try it out. But as far as my imagination can go from what I've seen, that can be the only problem.
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Old April 10th, 2008, 01:20   #11
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Is it possible that the brushes are nearing their end causing the intermittant power?

I'm curious if anyone has bothered to look into replacing the brushes in their motors? Is it worth it (cost and hastle wise) to do this rather than purchase a new motor?
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The problem is likely in the windings themselves. I've "fixed" a couple ICS Turbo 2000 already. The problem I found was at the pole ends where the wired turns from one side to another. ICS had about 4 or 5 wraps at these points, and they were squashed together pretty good. I pried them all apart, leaving a small air-gap between them. It fixed the problem and made a dud motor run like new. No parts involved, and no dead spots after.

But, to do it, you need to remove the pinion gear, and pry open the motor casing tabs that lock onto the rear end bell (the hard part to do). It took me about an hour to it last time.
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The problem is likely in the windings themselves. I've "fixed" a couple ICS Turbo 2000 already. The problem I found was at the pole ends where the wired turns from one side to another. ICS had about 4 or 5 wraps at these points, and they were squashed together pretty good. I pried them all apart, leaving a small air-gap between them. It fixed the problem and made a dud motor run like new. No parts involved, and no dead spots after.

But, to do it, you need to remove the pinion gear, and pry open the motor casing tabs that lock onto the rear end bell (the hard part to do). It took me about an hour to it last time.
well thanks for the info,,,it also pays to have friends with spare parts and i already have another eg700 dropped in. the stock ics turbo 2000 lasted a year and a couple months which from my understanding is a milestone based on the turbo 2000,s rep, this one was a used eg700 that lasted a year so i have no complaints.
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Old April 10th, 2008, 02:29   #14
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Well, you can always tinker with the ICS motor and maybe you'll have a spare.
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Old April 10th, 2008, 03:49   #15
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the motor replacement was a hit! i can officially call this problem solved,,but not without everyone's help including,"honda_powered" for the parts "cook-off" for direction and to "flatlander" for the testing idea's

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