TM PSG-1 help plz!

Pwner · August 30th, 2007, 23:34

ok well i bought my gun about a month ago and just got all my parts, i got a 300% ftk magnum medium motor and i switched out the spring to a 200%, put all the gears in and everything, and spent over 20 hours trying to fix the box that activates firing. and i improved it to a system that worked better. i have spent over 100 hours trying to fix this gun, now i just did everything and i had the motor out of the handle and it all worked flawlessly. then i put it in and the motor plate on, pull the trigger and nothing happens, eventually the battary and wires start to get hot so i unplug it, i now have no idea what this could be, and the motor dosnt even make a noise. Also i bought a heat resistant selector switch and it dosnt seem to be working,to make the connection complete it has to be pulled back farther then what the fire selector can do, anyone else had these problems or am i alone?

Skladfin · August 30th, 2007, 23:40

I think the motor is too tight in this case. loosen it?

hattrick · August 30th, 2007, 23:54

the spring being 200%......is my only guess, put in a 130 at most....assuming you live in canada and plan on feilding this best of a machine!

Pwner · August 31st, 2007, 00:05

well 200% for a psg-1 will only give around 470fps, so its fine, the 300% gives 550. and loosing the motor did KINDA work but it didnt pull the spring back all the way. it pulled it 3/4 and stoped and coudlnt do anything. so now i took it all apart again. i think i may have had to many bushings or something because the gears wouldnt turn

ILLusion · August 31st, 2007, 02:13

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Originally Posted by Pwner

ok well i bought my gun about a month ago and just got all my parts, i got a 300% ftk magnum medium motor and i switched out the spring to a 200%, put all the gears in and everything, and spent over 20 hours trying to fix the box that activates firing. and i improved it to a system that worked better. i have spent over 100 hours trying to fix this gun, now i just did everything and i had the motor out of the handle and it all worked flawlessly. then i put it in and the motor plate on, pull the trigger and nothing happens, eventually the battary and wires start to get hot so i unplug it, i now have no idea what this could be, and the motor dosnt even make a noise. Also i bought a heat resistant selector switch and it dosnt seem to be working,to make the connection complete it has to be pulled back farther then what the fire selector can do, anyone else had these problems or am i alone?

Did you install the relay that came with the FTK?

The PSG-1 is an incredibly finicky gun to upgrade. If you've never upgraded an AEG before or don't know what you're doing, this is one of the few guns that I HIGHLY don't recommend you try to upgrade yourself. I'd also recommend you get a 10.8v battery.

Pwner · August 31st, 2007, 03:00

yeah i have a 10.8, and what you mean the relay, is that the custom fuse box? i didnt bother with that. ive watched many vids on it and upgrade my aeg before, this seemed simpliar, now i am having a problem with the gears not turning, as if there were to many shims in, even tho i just took one out, it somehow made it harder to turn..

can someone give me specifics on how many shims i should put in between each gear,because the ones i find online are for stock gears and didnt work to well. thanks

ILLusion · August 31st, 2007, 08:11

It's not a "fuse box". The relay allows more power to flow to your motor without burning holes in to your switch assembly or melting your wires when cranking a spring so strong. Don't ignore that part, it's there for a reason.

It's also a very expensive part - you paid for it with the FTK, might as well use it, right?

Google "airsoft shim guide".

Monkey · August 31st, 2007, 11:00

i hope you dont have a bad ground somewhere, and are shorting the damn thing.

Pwner · August 31st, 2007, 16:20

ok thanks im going to try with those shims and if i get time ill install the relay, 1 more thing i am reading this systema sheet they gave me with the ftk, and it says "file burr where the pushpin was on the base, to level off, again please be sure to level off the tip of the sector gear cum. if the setting at this stage is not satisfactory, the trouble such as the double shooting my occur later" and i have no idea what it is talking about...

Pwner · August 31st, 2007, 16:58

ahhh!!! k well i put all the shims in according to http://www.21stcenturyairsoft.com/21cashimguide.php and now when i put it all together its so tight the gears wont turn again!! any suggestions?

Styrak · August 31st, 2007, 20:30

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Originally Posted by Pwner

ahhh!!! k well i put all the shims in according to http://www.21stcenturyairsoft.com/21cashimguide.php and now when i put it all together its so tight the gears wont turn again!! any suggestions?

Quote directly from that site: REMINDER: This is only a starting point for the proper shimming of your gearbox. Each gear may require more or less shimming.

Pwner · August 31st, 2007, 21:28

yeah turns out the set up that came with the ftk works, jus seemed like there wasnt enough, im probably going to have to take this gun to our airsoft mechanic around here cuz theres still problems

Pwner · August 31st, 2007, 23:39

can anyone help me with the gear timing on this, i made it the exact same as the ones in this pic
http://tech.airsoftcanada.com/TM/TM%20-%20PSG1/psg8.jpg
and it can pull back the spring but it wont release it

ILLusion · September 1st, 2007, 16:10

If you can get the gearbox to turn, then the issue isn't gear timing. It's pretty hard to mess up an airsoft gun's "gear timing". The idea of it being so important is actually a myth.

Pwner · September 1st, 2007, 21:28

yeah thats what my gun doctor said, now he dosnt have time to take any guns cuz hes going back to school

he said my problem is probably the plastic piece infront of the trigger, where it makes the connection complete, does anyone have one i could mabe buy? thanks

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August 30th, 2007, 23:34	#1
Pwner Trader rating Join Date: May 2007 Location: Surrey, B.C	TM PSG-1 help plz! ok well i bought my gun about a month ago and just got all my parts, i got a 300% ftk magnum medium motor and i switched out the spring to a 200%, put all the gears in and everything, and spent over 20 hours trying to fix the box that activates firing. and i improved it to a system that worked better. i have spent over 100 hours trying to fix this gun, now i just did everything and i had the motor out of the handle and it all worked flawlessly. then i put it in and the motor plate on, pull the trigger and nothing happens, eventually the battary and wires start to get hot so i unplug it, i now have no idea what this could be, and the motor dosnt even make a noise. Also i bought a heat resistant selector switch and it dosnt seem to be working,to make the connection complete it has to be pulled back farther then what the fire selector can do, anyone else had these problems or am i alone?

August 31st, 2007, 03:00	#6
Pwner Trader rating Join Date: May 2007 Location: Surrey, B.C	yeah i have a 10.8, and what you mean the relay, is that the custom fuse box? i didnt bother with that. ive watched many vids on it and upgrade my aeg before, this seemed simpliar, now i am having a problem with the gears not turning, as if there were to many shims in, even tho i just took one out, it somehow made it harder to turn.. can someone give me specifics on how many shims i should put in between each gear,because the ones i find online are for stock gears and didnt work to well. thanks Last edited by Pwner; August 31st, 2007 at 03:06..

August 31st, 2007, 08:11	#7
ILLusion GBB Whisperer Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto	It's not a "fuse box". The relay allows more power to flow to your motor without burning holes in to your switch assembly or melting your wires when cranking a spring so strong. Don't ignore that part, it's there for a reason. It's also a very expensive part - you paid for it with the FTK, might as well use it, right? Google "airsoft shim guide". __________________ *Advanced Airsoft Armaments and Enhancements* Quick to the gun, sure of your grip. Quick to the threat, sure of your shot. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas Accuracy, Power, Speed

August 30th, 2007, 23:40	#2
Skladfin Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Glace Bay, Nova Scotia	I think the motor is too tight in this case. loosen it?

August 31st, 2007, 00:05	#4
Pwner Trader rating Join Date: May 2007 Location: Surrey, B.C	well 200% for a psg-1 will only give around 470fps, so its fine, the 300% gives 550. and loosing the motor did KINDA work but it didnt pull the spring back all the way. it pulled it 3/4 and stoped and coudlnt do anything. so now i took it all apart again. i think i may have had to many bushings or something because the gears wouldnt turn

August 31st, 2007, 11:00	#8
Monkey Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: South Surrey, BC	i hope you dont have a bad ground somewhere, and are shorting the damn thing. __________________ eating mako... is like eating fish...

August 31st, 2007, 16:20	#9
Pwner Trader rating Join Date: May 2007 Location: Surrey, B.C	ok thanks im going to try with those shims and if i get time ill install the relay, 1 more thing i am reading this systema sheet they gave me with the ftk, and it says "file burr where the pushpin was on the base, to level off, again please be sure to level off the tip of the sector gear cum. if the setting at this stage is not satisfactory, the trouble such as the double shooting my occur later" and i have no idea what it is talking about...

August 31st, 2007, 16:58	#10
Pwner Trader rating Join Date: May 2007 Location: Surrey, B.C	ahhh!!! k well i put all the shims in according to http://www.21stcenturyairsoft.com/21cashimguide.php and now when i put it all together its so tight the gears wont turn again!! any suggestions?

August 31st, 2007, 21:28	#12
Pwner Trader rating Join Date: May 2007 Location: Surrey, B.C	yeah turns out the set up that came with the ftk works, jus seemed like there wasnt enough, im probably going to have to take this gun to our airsoft mechanic around here cuz theres still problems

August 31st, 2007, 23:39	#13
Pwner Trader rating Join Date: May 2007 Location: Surrey, B.C	can anyone help me with the gear timing on this, i made it the exact same as the ones in this pic http://tech.airsoftcanada.com/TM/TM%20-%20PSG1/psg8.jpg and it can pull back the spring but it wont release it

September 1st, 2007, 16:10	#14
ILLusion GBB Whisperer Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto	If you can get the gearbox to turn, then the issue isn't gear timing. It's pretty hard to mess up an airsoft gun's "gear timing". The idea of it being so important is actually a myth. __________________ *Advanced Airsoft Armaments and Enhancements* Quick to the gun, sure of your grip. Quick to the threat, sure of your shot. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas Accuracy, Power, Speed

September 1st, 2007, 21:28	#15
Pwner Trader rating Join Date: May 2007 Location: Surrey, B.C	yeah thats what my gun doctor said, now he dosnt have time to take any guns cuz hes going back to school he said my problem is probably the plastic piece infront of the trigger, where it makes the connection complete, does anyone have one i could mabe buy? thanks

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