difference between TM and G&P M4 bodies?

Mirodasc · October 18th, 2010, 18:37

Just as the title states, whats the difference between TM and G&P AEG bodies?
Are the tolerances different? Can a G&P upper fit on a TM lower? are they different sizes like the ICS bodies are longer?

Any information would be great, and if someone has both and could take a picture if there are differences, that would be much appreciated!

Thanks guys.

Strelok · October 18th, 2010, 18:40

G&P is pretty much made as aftermarket for TM

Most notable difference is G&P = Metal, TM = plastic.

Amos · October 18th, 2010, 18:46

TM is an old system that works off of body tabs with a two peice hop-up.

the G&P is made for the new system that's held in by the front pin and two smaller pins that fit into channels on the lower receiver. This system is for a 1 piece hop-up.

TokyoSeven · October 18th, 2010, 18:48

To summarize what Amos said in short, no a G&P upper will not mate properly with a TM lower due to the way parts connect.

Daiviet · October 18th, 2010, 18:49

you're going to need a 1 piece hop up instead of the two piece from TM if you're going to use a G&P metal body.

Mirodasc · October 18th, 2010, 19:05

So if I have a G&P Upper, I will need a 1 piece hop-up, and not a TM Lower. Other than that everything else should fit in fine? Pins, bolt, dust cover, gear box, selector level, etc?

TokyoSeven · October 18th, 2010, 19:59

Well as it stands you could get away with the two piece hopup since you only have the upper but unfortunately you wont be able to mate the G&P upper and TM lower because of different modes of attachment.

Best option currently would be to source a G&P lower and 1 piece hop up unit.

Skruface · October 19th, 2010, 00:34

Let's not forget that the delta ring threading of G&P uppers is NOT the same as the threading on a TM upper....

RecceGod · October 19th, 2010, 07:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skruface

Let's not forget that the delta ring threading of G&P uppers is NOT the same as the threading on a TM upper....

Oh yeah??? Well they used to...

Styrak · October 19th, 2010, 10:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skruface

Let's not forget that the delta ring threading of G&P uppers is NOT the same as the threading on a TM upper....

Yes it is....

Boyso · October 19th, 2010, 11:03

Hmm isn't the G&P using imperial threading and TM; metric?

If so, it is not the same... Yes you screw the same way, but it's different sizes.

Amos · October 19th, 2010, 11:05

At all depends on what generation body we're talking here...

I haven't had any problems putting new G&P front ends on older Marui style bodies.

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October 18th, 2010, 18:37	#1
Mirodasc Trader rating Join Date: May 2006 Location: Vancouver BC	difference between TM and G&P M4 bodies? Just as the title states, whats the difference between TM and G&P AEG bodies? Are the tolerances different? Can a G&P upper fit on a TM lower? are they different sizes like the ICS bodies are longer? Any information would be great, and if someone has both and could take a picture if there are differences, that would be much appreciated! Thanks guys.

October 18th, 2010, 18:46	#3
Amos Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tokushima, Japan	TM is an old system that works off of body tabs with a two peice hop-up. the G&P is made for the new system that's held in by the front pin and two smaller pins that fit into channels on the lower receiver. This system is for a 1 piece hop-up. __________________ Custom Builds: FA3674U Krinkov G3SD6

October 18th, 2010, 18:48	#4
TokyoSeven Red Wine & Adderall Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Saskatoon, SK	To summarize what Amos said in short, no a G&P upper will not mate properly with a TM lower due to the way parts connect. __________________ "Its only a little bit on fire"

October 18th, 2010, 18:40	#2
Strelok Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Brandon Manitoba	G&P is pretty much made as aftermarket for TM Most notable difference is G&P = Metal, TM = plastic.

October 18th, 2010, 18:49	#5
Daiviet Captain Sunshine Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006	you're going to need a 1 piece hop up instead of the two piece from TM if you're going to use a G&P metal body.

October 18th, 2010, 19:05	#6
Mirodasc Trader rating Join Date: May 2006 Location: Vancouver BC	So if I have a G&P Upper, I will need a 1 piece hop-up, and not a TM Lower. Other than that everything else should fit in fine? Pins, bolt, dust cover, gear box, selector level, etc?

October 18th, 2010, 19:59	#7
TokyoSeven Red Wine & Adderall Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Saskatoon, SK	Well as it stands you could get away with the two piece hopup since you only have the upper but unfortunately you wont be able to mate the G&P upper and TM lower because of different modes of attachment. Best option currently would be to source a G&P lower and 1 piece hop up unit. __________________ "Its only a little bit on fire"

October 19th, 2010, 11:03	#11
Boyso a.k.a. LastSpartan Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Québec city	Hmm isn't the G&P using imperial threading and TM; metric? If so, it is not the same... Yes you screw the same way, but it's different sizes. __________________ NEW BACON FOR SALE! "WHEN I DIE BURY ME UPSIDE DOWN SO THE WORLD CAN KISS MY ASS" -Platoon

October 19th, 2010, 11:05	#12
Amos Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tokushima, Japan	At all depends on what generation body we're talking here... I haven't had any problems putting new G&P front ends on older Marui style bodies. __________________ Custom Builds: FA3674U Krinkov G3SD6

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