How many of you guys use a red dot?

[dmitril]

Originally Posted by Drakker

<snip> As for their reliability, of course, if you use real optics, they will probably last a while. But most players use cheap china crap that breaks really fast... and have crazy parallax </snip>

Just plain wrong. A $15 aliexpress red dot is good enough for airsoft. We do not have sharp enough recoil for it to matter and our accuracy is pure garbage compared to real guns or the capabilities of even the cheapest of red dots.
And lack of parallax in expensive optics is just a myth. All optics have parallax outside of the distance they are adjusted for, but honestly, the couple of inches lost to parallax are not going to matter for airsoft.

[docholiday]

Originally Posted by dmitril

Just plain wrong. A $15 aliexpress red dot is good enough for airsoft. We do not have sharp enough recoil for it to matter and our accuracy is pure garbage compared to real guns or the capabilities of even the cheapest of red dots.
And lack of parallax in expensive optics is just a myth. All optics have parallax outside of the distance they are adjusted for, but honestly, the couple of inches lost to parallax are not going to matter for airsoft.

Have you ever extensively used a Aimpoint/EOTech or comparable optic for airsoft?

[EOD Steve]

Originally Posted by dmitril

Just plain wrong. A $15 aliexpress red dot is good enough for airsoft. We do not have sharp enough recoil for it to matter and our accuracy is pure garbage compared to real guns or the capabilities of even the cheapest of red dots.
And lack of parallax in expensive optics is just a myth. All optics have parallax outside of the distance they are adjusted for, but honestly, the couple of inches lost to parallax are not going to matter for airsoft.

lol.

[Drakker]

Originally Posted by dmitril

our accuracy is pure garbage compared to real guns or the capabilities of even the cheapest of red dots.

This is so wrong. Iron sights are so much more accurate than a cheap red dot. Cheap red dots have severe distortion in the lens that cause unpredictable jumps of the dot around, creating huge amounts of parallax. They also have a blurry unfocused distorted dot. They are completely unusable, you could aim better with only a front sight and no rear sight.

Second, the accuracy of airsoft guns is far from "garbage". Have you ever used a well tuned gun? The accuracy of airsoft guns is pretty damn amazing for what they are.

[dmitril]

No offence but very few people can hit a man sized target at 100m range consistently. Id say none if we are talking about 400fps with .2 joules and no prior dialing in. So yes airsoft accuracy is garbage, good for what it is but still garbage, your optic is not going to be the limiting factor for your accuracy. Sub 100m, 10moa accurate optics will do for airsoft.

Oh and if anyone is considering chinese red dot, go with tube type, their reflex types suck.

[ThunderCactus]

I disagree. Mainly because I think you're grossly underestimating just how shitty Chinese optics can be.
Like, pretty sure the worst optics and irons would affect your accuracy on NERF DART GUNS.

[BobbyDangerous]

Originally Posted by dmitril

No offence but very few people can hit a man sized target at 100m range consistently. Id say none if we are talking about 400fps with .2 joules and no prior dialing in. So yes airsoft accuracy is garbage, good for what it is but still garbage, your optic is not going to be the limiting factor for your accuracy. Sub 100m, 10moa accurate optics will do for airsoft.

Oh and if anyone is considering chinese red dot, go with tube type, their reflex types suck.

Find the Eotech can be dialed in better than the aimpoints. I tried to dial my Aimpoint in but the adjustment range isn't enough. The Eotech is perfect. The Spectre. I got that bullseye. But it's a 4x's

[BioRage]

Lol, this is off a SRS replica.

crap pot metal, and lol @bulb.

[Datawraith]

I run the same SRS clone as Bio above on my MR CQBR, just that my SRS hasn't gotten to that stage, although I bought it second hand with the adjustment dials broken. I just took it apart, shimmed it up, and zeroed it lol. It's a beautiful sight though, and it runs off rechargeable AA's!

For my KC02 (marksman rifle), I run a Bushnell 1-4x scope.

But yes, a good red dot is faster and is easier to see where you are shooting and adjust accordingly, so they are a recommended accessory for CQB and even outdoors.

[BioRage]

RDS = faster target acquisition... I run irons though in CQB. I will pick up a holosun or sparc ii in the near future..

[brock0]

I bought a host of $50-$60 clone optics and they all sucked for one reason or another: could not hold zero, huge blobby reticles, wobbly mounts, broken buttons, loose battery compartments, and on and on and on.

I like a reflex/red dot, but a good one like a real steel aimpoint or a Holosun or something.

[Chairs]

I'm looking at putting a 1-4x20 from bushnell. I'd love to throw my vortex viper pst on but then I'd need something for my real steel tavor haha.

[dmitril]

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

I disagree. Mainly because I think you're grossly underestimating just how shitty Chinese optics can be.
Like, pretty sure the worst optics and irons would affect your accuracy on NERF DART GUNS.

Maybe I lucked out, it can be pretty hit or miss with Chinese stuff. Personally I wouldn't buy a China scope but for something simple and cqb oriented like a rds paying $150 is waste unless you have rs for it

[AnthonyG]

When you guys say you use aimpoints and eotechs, are talking real or replica?

I'm going faint thinking you guys strap RS sights on to your guns, but hey... if you got the cash go for it.

I'll stick to my iron sights for outdoors.

[Drakker]

Originally Posted by dmitril

No offence but very few people can hit a man sized target at 100m range consistently. Id say none if we are talking about 400fps with .2 joules and no prior dialing in. So yes airsoft accuracy is garbage, good for what it is but still garbage, your optic is not going to be the limiting factor for your accuracy. Sub 100m, 10moa accurate optics will do for airsoft.

Oh and if anyone is considering chinese red dot, go with tube type, their reflex types suck.

100m is outside the range of airsoft guns (except a very few high FPS super tweaked guns). This is like saying a .22 round is inaccurate because you can't hit a target at 1.5km like you could with a .50 round.