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Old June 13th, 2005, 19:52   #1
MilanWG
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M11 stocks

Hi there. I came across this page of M11 stock options
http://www.aceltdusa.com/m11-9.htm
and am very interested in adding a new stock to my KSC M11.

I know someone on the ASC boards has already modified their M11 to fit a m4 folding stock, but from my knowladge that stock did not fold to the side as all of the stocks on this page do.

If i wanted to mod my KSC M11 to fit this particular stock configuration:

Which parts would I need to order to configure my KSC M11 with a folding skeleton stock mechanism pictured above?

Can anyone figure out of they changed the sights on the M11 at the bottem of the page? Did they just glew on a AR15 sight and windage knob?

Also, would it be possible to bolt or screw a RIS rail onto the front bottem of the M11 from to add a front style grip in the same fashion as the picture above? Then a possible grip like this could be added:

if so, were would you find a little RIS rail?

Thanks for your time Gs :salute:
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Old June 14th, 2005, 00:36   #2
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Well firstly consider that your gun is an M11 .380; the one shown in the above photo is an M11/9 which has a considerably longer receiver upon which to permanently affix this stock. It MAY fit on yours but I'd double check the return policy just in case.

With respects to the sight, given that the M11 rear sight consists of a flat piece of sheet metal with a hole drilled through it I sincerely doubt they simply glued on a windage knob and AR-15 sight aperture. There are various real steel sight options available including a rotating diopter drum a la MP5 series with accompanying foresight. You will also notice the cocking knob has been replaced with a low profile one to better the sight picture.

Ask yourself if these mods are worth it for a $300 CQB bullet hose, especially if it's plastic. My M11 is completely metal top to bottom and I wouldn't dare drill into it for the sake of a sturdier shoulder stock, to help me steady rudimentary sights I can barely see through to begin with. However if you insist on going "kitchen sink" on your M11, perhaps this will help you: http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper...=GP-KIT-M11CQB
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Old June 14th, 2005, 12:18   #3
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I did notice that the pictured M11 had a longer receiver, but I do not think this will affect the moded stock.

I also did notice the low profile cocking knob which I do not really like, so that cancels out new sights I guess.

The stock options may be a little pricey, but My M11 is my primary and i love it.

I should upgrade my M11 to completely metal top to bottom, but I just got a fresh, new KSC M11, so I will wait a while.

As for the little bottem rail that they have added to apply the front hand-grip, where would I get a little RIS rail like that?

You are right that is is a little silly to add an exspensive stock for the sake of a sturdier shoulder stock to help steady rudimentary sights that can barely be see through.

The M11CQB kit is cheazy to me. look at that gimpy little suppressor. all i want is a little rail to add a front hand grip. :tup:
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Old June 14th, 2005, 12:35   #4
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Little RIS, you can look into getting a Weaver type scope mount at a gun store (or Le Baron in Toronto). I had a couple of them, a bit over an inch long, and mounted one to the lower front grip of my MP5SD to attach a vertical grip.
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Old June 14th, 2005, 13:36   #5
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would this work?

http://www.armsmounts.com/catalog.ph...=124&item_id=3
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Old June 14th, 2005, 15:13   #6
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You can get them alot cheaper than that.
Like this:
http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper...G36SL_srch_g36
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