TOP M4A1 AEG with shell ejection

[Kid]

Yeah... but if they're making a film, why not just use blanks like usual?

Blank firing guns are probably cheaper.

[baker_Jeff]

No kidding. These would be fantastic for small budget films

[Rugger_can]

Originally Posted by Kid

Yeah... but if they're making a film, why not just use blanks like usual?

Blank firing guns are probably cheaper.

There are loads of stupid regs in regards to blank firing weapons nowadays. Also due to their inherent danger (deadly accidents have happended ala Brandon Lee) insurance can be cost prohibitive I imagine.


If its big budget it would not be an issue. Hire a movie armorer and voila.. problem solved. But airsoft allows cheaper budget tv shows or movies to have props when they need them without having to invest additional funds into long term insurance and staff.

Stargate series comes to mind.

[kullwarrior]

Originally Posted by -Trooper-

I wonder how much the shells themselves will cost.

Well hopefully it will take shell casings of .223 or 5.56(doubtful youll find em in Canada)

Originally Posted by Kid

Yeah... but if they're making a film, why not just use blanks like usual?

Blank firing guns are probably cheaper.

Blanks are not remotely cheap, the ammo aint free.

[Mitchell12]

Originally Posted by kullwarrior

Well hopefully it will take shell casings of .223 or 5.56(doubtful youll find em in Canada)


Blanks are not remotely cheap, the ammo aint free.

That'd be neat and fairly inexpensive if you could use old casings.

[The Chad]

Originally Posted by Mitchell12

That'd be neat and fairly inexpensive if you could use old casings.

It won't take long for some other company to start popping the shells out in mass production making them dirt cheap.

Maybe even BIO ones Made from rice so you can shoot your ammo, and eat it too!!

[kullwarrior]

Originally Posted by The Chad

It won't take long for some other company to start popping the shells out in mass production making them dirt cheap.

Maybe even BIO ones Made from rice so you can shoot your ammo, and eat it too!!

Doubtful you can make it cheaper than used shell casings. Those will run you probably <5 cent per shell....can you beat that? And its stamped brass not cnc making bloody expensive or crappy cast metal

[Kid]

Originally Posted by The Chad

It won't take long for some other company to start popping the shells out in mass production making them dirt cheap.

Maybe even BIO ones Made from rice so you can shoot your ammo, and eat it too!!

There are plenty of shell ejecting guns that have been made in the past, and hardly any of them have aftermarket shells available - and none of them cheap enough to toss every shot. The only biodegradable shells I can think of are for the Rap4 - a paintball gun.

Originally Posted by Mitchell12

That'd be neat and fairly inexpensive if you could use old casings.

Unlikely, as the main market will be in Japan, where spent casings will be very difficult to find and thus having RS compatibility won't be a big draw. I can't think of any shell ejecting gun produced in the past that could use RS shells. Plus, proprietary shells could be a source of income for them. (Top is known to have a lot of proprietary parts). Plus, RS brass would likely be heavier than their shells - probably wouldn't fly as far.


I wish GBBR manufacturers would start storing gas in the stocks of guns, rather than mags. That could open the door to shell ejecting GBBRs and GBBRs that are compatible with standard mags.

[aZn_triXta07]

Originally Posted by Rugger_can

There are loads of stupid regs in regards to blank firing weapons nowadays. Also due to their inherent danger (deadly accidents have happended ala Brandon Lee) insurance can be cost prohibitive I imagine.

Yeap depending on where you are you'll need a permits, permissions, and it just goes on, alot of independant film makers can't afford that and even if they could there aren't enough armourers that can fit them into their schedules.

Wranglers here also just use real-steel, most use modified barrels so the action can continue to cycle. Real steel is generally better because they can always get parts and they NEED their stuff to work.

For handgun, one of the guys I've worked with told me that the wranglers here charge $10/round.

Airsoft (GBBs) are generally more than enough, it's easy to add the muzzle flash, ejecting cartridges ... who says you need to film a close up?

Buying blank guns/replica firearms you'll need a BFL to acquire unless you get those Zoraki Non-Guns, but that just takes you back to requiring a permit to discharge etc. plus those are front-firing I believe? Hence the risk, unless you picked it up from the States where the barrels are plugged and the gas vents from the top you'll need to exercise caution.

Keep in mind everybody these are developed in Japan where acquiring a gun is according to a friend of mine said, "happens once in a blue moon" lol

[Polyshot]

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[R.I.T.Z]

looking at this gun it seems as though the entire bolt assembly moves back, not just a faux cover.
the fact it can take both regular m4 mags and the specialty ones is quite interesting.
well i want one.

[kullwarrior]

Originally Posted by R.I.T.Z

looking at this gun it seems as though the entire bolt assembly moves back, not just a faux cover.
the fact it can take both regular m4 mags and the specialty ones is quite interesting.
well i want one.

We then its gonna be useless for us because of our capacity limits. Don't think you can get around it in airsoft mag. If its compatabile with firearm, it would be considered a firearm magazine.

[R.I.T.Z]

Originally Posted by kullwarrior

We then its gonna be useless for us because of our capacity limits. Don't think you can get around it in airsoft mag. If its compatabile with firearm, it would be considered a firearm magazine.

i know still want one for plinking and a wall hanger, gotta admit its pretty cool. and thats essentially the selling point.

[kullwarrior]

Originally Posted by R.I.T.Z

i know still want one for plinking and a wall hanger, gotta admit its pretty cool. and thats essentially the selling point.

Well I wish it was like the old Marui ones back in 80s where there's a port for bbs and another port for the shell.

[Smartass]

Thread resurection time. A friend (indie film maker) asked me about the TOP M4A1 shell ejection AEG. I hadn't seen it before. I see where you can get it in the States but is there a Canadian distributer who carries it, or can get it)?