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Old June 21st, 2010, 10:33   #31
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Rooster has the idea with a Kraken. Buy it cheap and don't spend money on it "to get it like you want it". As conflict said, you could buy a decent gun for what you pay to upgrade the Kraken.

Just paint it and use it. When you want to get serious, then it makes a backup/rental. Even TM's and CA's breakdown (way too much really, in CA's case at least) so it is necessary to have some kind of backup.
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Old June 21st, 2010, 10:57   #32
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Think of it this way. When you buy a brand new car. Then decide oh I don't like it I'm selling it. Do you think you could sell it for the price you bought it for? HELL NO. Same deal people.
No, it isn't. You can't even begin to compare the airsoft market with the automobile market.

Yea, 98% was probably high.. but the actual number is still significantly more than people will pay for even an upgraded kraken.

When you start this hobby, don't start with shit. Start with something that will seriously give you an idea of what it's like to play. A gun that 50 percent of the time assplodes within the first 2,000 rounds isn't the way to do it.

Krakens have their place -as a learning tool, or a 100% build platform where you're going to replace everything except those hard to find AK pieces.

As a gun for a new player... no.
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Old June 21st, 2010, 11:21   #33
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Kraken for new players is not a good idea as Kalnaren Stated unless you like being pissed off, Frustrated and smashin stuff. Or have a buttload of money to throw at it.

Go with a better name brand you wont be dissapointed
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Old June 21st, 2010, 12:26   #34
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My Kraken is completely stock and its lasted 45,000+ rounds
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Old June 21st, 2010, 12:49   #35
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Old June 21st, 2010, 12:59   #36
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Old June 21st, 2010, 13:42   #37
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I've had an aftermath kraken and mp5 tac... both worked extremely well with proper greasing for over two years before I decided to get a full metal aeg. They are good starters just don't put money into them. For $99.99 I'd buy a few of them if I had the spare cash. On a side note spend $20 to add metal bushings, shims and you must reshim the thing. Mine came so terribly shimmed I lots a big amount of ROF.
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Old June 21st, 2010, 14:31   #38
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Well the point is that in airsoft, you get what you paid for.

While the kraken is fairly inexpensive (200$), it is lacking in quality control and needs to be properly shimmed and modified right of the box to perform adequately.

A much better choice for someone looking to start would be a G&G AK-47 REC at 298$ which comes with a decent gearbox right from the start and a decent battery. You also get a decent charger.

I personally started airsoft with a G&G AK-47 (the wood version CAS) and I love it. I still own this AK which has proven to be a reliable AEG as a backup gun.

Krakens are what they are, they are upgrade platform and they can be made in truly great AK with proper modding and dedication. As a first airsoft gun, they can either make or break your airsoft experience. Thus, you should not cheap out on your first gun - buy something decent and then if you like your first weapon you can upgrade it or move on to higher end aegs (like a realsword type 56-1 in my case )
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Old June 21st, 2010, 15:00   #39
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My experiance with Krakens has been great, mine worked fine, only problem with one of my buddies was it could only fire full auto, and another who fell and snapped the rear sight off, but I've still heard enough horror stories, so many that if i had heard them before I bought my kraken that i wouldn't have. point is as it can't be stated enough, Buyer Be warned. it's CA or TM or bust for me.
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Old June 21st, 2010, 15:06   #40
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...just get a RS Type 56.

no matter how much you pay, a cyma will never look that good.

+1 best AK variant made.
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Old June 21st, 2010, 15:16   #41
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Yeah but we're talkin $99 vs. What? $700 for a Type 56? I mean if you have the cash it's a no brainer, but that's a big difference.
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Old June 21st, 2010, 15:48   #42
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The only thing I really recommend a Kraken for is as a project gun to build a nice wood / metal AK. It's basically a 3D instruction manual with all the small screws and parts you need that you can't buy aftermarket, and you can upgrade it piece by piece as your budget allows. If done right, in the end you can end up with a full metal and wood AK that fires every bit as well as a TM or other brand name gun for about the price of an all-plastic new TM AK. But unless you actually WANT to build your own, for that same price, you can get a Real Sword and have the definitive airsoft AK and not have to fuck wtih anything to get it to work.

For beginners, it's a hit or miss thing. Some Krakens will run tens of thousands of rounds reliably. Some will die on the first few shots fired. For every 2-3 happy Kraken-slinging noobs, there's another frustrated to shit with a gun that broke shortly after coming out the clamshell packaging, and zero warranty support from the retailer or from Aftermath. If you can get a good one, then you've hit it lucky and it should probably last a long time. Accuracy, consistency and overall performance may not be on par with a high end gun, but it will shoot. And if you're able to do some maintenance and a few upgrades, you can probably makes it last a long time.
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