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Old July 14th, 2014, 17:21   #61
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Problem with tightbores/widebores right now isnt quality or bore or length or whatever. Problem is fouling from the gun.
I still consider that a barrel problem
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Old July 14th, 2014, 17:25   #62
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EDIT Something much more promising: I used to do air pistol target shooting, my friend's Morini used a small under-barrel cylinder which could fit in a full stocked gun (though I doubt you could fit it in a buffer tube). You fill it by hand using (essentially) a fancy bicycle pump. They're good for 200 shots at roughly 3.6J/shot (5 grains at 495feet/s). assuming we're firing at 1J/shot that gets us roughly 720 shots. They're damn expensive though.

Pre-Charged Pneumatic (PCP) air guns
http://www.prechargedairguns.com/index.html

That ~300 shots is without any blowback functionality though. Most PCP air guns (at least the ones I saw) use either revolver-like "magazine" or are "breach-loaded" (for lack of a better word)

Still, would be nice to see an adaptation to airsoft indeed
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Old July 14th, 2014, 21:17   #63
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I still consider that a barrel problem
i would say its a lubrication or bb problem.
polarstars dont use conventional mechboxes and they still foul.
however little friction your barrel has, it will always foul to some degree.
major issue with fouling from bbs, is to prevent it you need to clean them, and bio bbs start degrading in water....
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Old July 14th, 2014, 22:35   #64
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Paintball has a First Strike rounds that out performs normal paintball with much better ballistics and range.

Pretty sure it can be applied to airsoft bb's
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Old July 14th, 2014, 22:46   #65
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Paintball has a First Strike rounds that out performs normal paintball with much better ballistics and range.

Pretty sure it can be applied to airsoft bb's
I think that was tried before...


http://www.rap4.com/rap4-airfinthe-a-36.html
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Old July 14th, 2014, 23:02   #66
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the problem with those airfin "bb's" is two fold, first they are not heavy enough and two no hop up, yes i know the fins are spose to stablize the flight but because they are flat fins the dont put any spin on it so it doesnt help much then they only weigh .16g or .19g or something light like that, on top of it all if you loaded one of those in a standard airsoft gun it wouldnt get a propper airseal cause the fins would be in the hop rubber and the bb part would be mostly out.
it does have some potential if it were a heavier round with some angle on the fins but would require a modified hop up or would have to be the new standard and hop ups (i guess they would just be air seal chambers at this point) would have to be redesigned.
they tried, then shortly after they put out a new version of their inner barrel with a hop up, i must say tho, their lil shell ejecting design is fun, and the "shells" are cheap enough that u dont have to pic em up. Someone should design a gbbr with that feature lol
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Old July 14th, 2014, 23:12   #67
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Firststrike is different concept than the fin ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKSN-rJJYBE

Nobody has a 3D printer to test it?
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Old July 14th, 2014, 23:18   #68
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I wish also they build M249 box mag with 200 rounds (realistic) with no motor to feed the gun, just like the RPK. One spring and that's it.. keep it simple!
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Old February 16th, 2015, 00:14   #69
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Old February 16th, 2015, 11:49   #70
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These people are idiots.
The ONLY, and I mean ONLY reason a BB goes further than 80ft is solely because of the backspin on it creating an airfoil that fights against gravity.
No backspin, no airfoil, no forces counter gravity, no extra range.

Not only does side spin not help range at all, but at low velocities it will have the same effect as backspin. You'll have a sideways magnus effect that will simply veer off all your rounds to one side.

You look at real guns, rifling doesn't help the trajectory or range at all, it only increases accuracy.
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Old February 16th, 2015, 12:07   #71
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I'm waiting for someone to design a brushless motor in the right form factor with a small ESC for our guns and for them to start to be commonplace but until then I guess were stuck with brushed motors. THAT would be the next big thing IMO. Also brushless inrunners can get crazy speeds (albeit low torque) so those guys who love shooting laserbeams of BB's can rejoice and are that much closer to getting >9000 RPS.
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Old February 16th, 2015, 12:22   #72
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brushless? I'm still waiting for someone to make a good, brushed ptw motor lol
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Old February 16th, 2015, 12:45   #73
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Wasn't there a company making a rare earth magnet driven motor?
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Old February 16th, 2015, 12:46   #74
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Tackleberry makes nice ones :-P

Though I'm no expert, I agree it's odd that his "fix" has been staring them in the face all this time yet they don't just do it from the factory...
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Old February 16th, 2015, 12:55   #75
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I'm waiting for someone to design a brushless motor in the right form factor with a small ESC for our guns and for them to start to be commonplace but until then I guess were stuck with brushed motors. THAT would be the next big thing IMO. Also brushless inrunners can get crazy speeds (albeit low torque) so those guys who love shooting laserbeams of BB's can rejoice and are that much closer to getting >9000 RPS.
That was done last year.
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