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Old July 8th, 2005, 11:14   #1
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Green gas in HFC134a gun?

Is it possible to use green gas instead of HFC134a in a GBB? I was planning on doing so with a Glock 23F. Is it safe? Or will it blow the slide off?
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Old July 8th, 2005, 11:17   #2
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Stronger gas means more wear on the gun. All guns will eventually break, using a higher pressure gas like propane means that they'll break sooner. No, your slide won't blow off.
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Old July 8th, 2005, 11:18   #3
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its not good on any gbb to use hipower gas, it wares the internals. Best if you get a metal slide for it. Some gbbs lasts longer on propane then others, its just a matter of time.



*edit* oop beat me to it

the slide might crack, but never blow apart like bomb.
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Old July 8th, 2005, 11:23   #4
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You will break your KSC Glock 23F if you run anything other than HFC134a, it will crack in the grip. The 23 cant handle green or propane. I have 3 broken 23F's, all broken inthe same spot.
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Old July 8th, 2005, 12:21   #5
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RAS, that is AMAZING that the grip broke on your 3 G23Fs, considering they have the HW material made frames. Do you have pics of how they broke? I have 5 G19s and 1 G23F and use ET1600 Red Gas which is 50psi higher than propane at room temp, and have never had a frame break. Were you using an upgraded recoil spring?
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Old July 8th, 2005, 12:24   #6
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did you happen to use red gas?
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Old July 8th, 2005, 12:27   #7
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did you happen to use red gas?
I don't think I've ever seen red gas in Canada, or even the mythical black gas.
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did you happen to use red gas?
I don't think I've ever seen red gas in Canada, or even the mythical black gas.

Isn't Red Gas just co2
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Old July 8th, 2005, 12:53   #9
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did you happen to use red gas?
I don't think I've ever seen red gas in Canada, or even the mythical black gas.

Isn't Red Gas just co2
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Old July 8th, 2005, 13:21   #10
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i want to see some newbi use a crapy gbb, use red/black gas in it and blow up on the first shot.
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Old July 8th, 2005, 13:31   #11
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i want to see some newbi use a crapy gbb, use red/black gas in it and blow up on the first shot.

Ive seen a guys g19 metal slide fly off on the blowback and smash his head :roll:
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Old July 8th, 2005, 18:49   #12
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black gas is CO2. Red gas is R22... the same propellent used in airbrushes I believe.
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Old July 8th, 2005, 18:53   #13
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I wouldnt recommend useing propane in a plastic slide gun... Itll crack just like my KJW Glock 23. It wont crack right away, but usually after going though a bag of bbs.

By the way RAS can you post a pic of the 23 that cracked at the handle? Im just curiouse to what it looks like.
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Old July 8th, 2005, 23:42   #14
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fwiw...i have a brand new ksc glock 23f. the first mag through the gun, i used propane. blew the slide clean off, the selector switch no longer works either! :smack:
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Old July 9th, 2005, 15:18   #15
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LOL, Reminds me of what happened with my gun.
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