Why 2 Scopes for M4?

Bunny · December 19th, 2005, 17:54

My *guess* is that he's actually boresighting his scope. That would also explain the seeming muzzle obstruction, most boresighting arbors go down the muzzle.

(re: his technique, he's chicken-winging too).

Quaff · December 19th, 2005, 18:02

The lack of a Magazine is a good hint as well.

Cyclic · December 19th, 2005, 18:36

It's a boresighting device, not a scope...

TKO-Wildcard · December 19th, 2005, 19:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penguin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis

or like this.....

Is that second scope mounted backwards?

edit: didn't see the other post.

stupid me.

I dont think thats a scope. It looks more like a collimator to me. A collimator is a bore sighting device which uses an aiming point to represent an infinite distance. I highly doubt that if it were a scope that it would be of any use given the fact that its sticking down the barrel.

Drake · December 27th, 2005, 20:15

To address the original question, there's another setup that uses two scopes - a magnified scope and a red dot. On AR Carbines (m4 etc) usually a red dot on the front/top RIS or a bi-level rail, and a magnified scope (w/ see-thru mount) on the carry handle.

The red dot will line up with the iron sights, giving you all the advantages of the red dot, and you still have the magnified scope for longer range engagements.

Or on some full size ARs/SR25s/SPRs/etc, a small red dot mounted on a rail atop the magnified scope's rings (I use this setup on my Match AR). Same idea. You don't wanna engage at close range with a magnified scope, you'd be dead before you properly aquired your target.

Bunny · December 27th, 2005, 21:47

But wait -there's more!

Aimpoint released a 3x add-on sight some time ago. It snaps(twists) on behind the aimpoint, giving extra magnification if needed.
http://www.aimpoint.com/upload/produ...blad/3XMag.pdf

Homewrecker · December 27th, 2005, 22:57

That dude's hand on the fore grip does not look like it belongs to him. There's no way an arm can twist into that weird position unless he's doublejointed.

Regardless, it looks hella weird.

flack · December 28th, 2005, 00:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by L473ncy

Could that pic have been photoshopped?

:nod:

Dr_Tinshnipz · December 28th, 2005, 17:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homewrecker

That dude's hand on the fore grip does not look like it belongs to him. There's no way an arm can twist into that weird position unless he's doublejointed.

Regardless, it looks hella weird.

yeah thats messed :?

mouse · December 29th, 2005, 14:13

I am pretty sure its real. No magazine in the gun. I am pretty sure he is using that other scope as a bore sighter since it blocks the whole at the end, and might I add a ghetto bore sighter to! but inventive no the less

Peace

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December 19th, 2005, 17:54	#16
Bunny Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver BC	My guess is that he's actually boresighting his scope. That would also explain the seeming muzzle obstruction, most boresighting arbors go down the muzzle. (re: his technique, he's chicken-winging too). __________________ BCAC كافر ---------------------- Read Stephen Taylor here Those who trade liberty for safety will ultimately deprive themselves of both.

December 19th, 2005, 18:36	#18
Cyclic Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ON, Canada	It's a boresighting device, not a scope... __________________ Retired 2PPCLI

December 27th, 2005, 20:15	#20
Drake E-01 Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Montreal, QC	To address the original question, there's another setup that uses two scopes - a magnified scope and a red dot. On AR Carbines (m4 etc) usually a red dot on the front/top RIS or a bi-level rail, and a magnified scope (w/ see-thru mount) on the carry handle. The red dot will line up with the iron sights, giving you all the advantages of the red dot, and you still have the magnified scope for longer range engagements. Or on some full size ARs/SR25s/SPRs/etc, a small red dot mounted on a rail atop the magnified scope's rings (I use this setup on my Match AR). Same idea. You don't wanna engage at close range with a magnified scope, you'd be dead before you properly aquired your target. __________________

December 19th, 2005, 18:02	#17
Quaff Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2005	The lack of a Magazine is a good hint as well.

December 27th, 2005, 21:47	#21
Bunny Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver BC	But wait -there's more! Aimpoint released a 3x add-on sight some time ago. It snaps(twists) on behind the aimpoint, giving extra magnification if needed. http://www.aimpoint.com/upload/produ...blad/3XMag.pdf __________________ BCAC كافر ---------------------- Read Stephen Taylor here Those who trade liberty for safety will ultimately deprive themselves of both.

December 27th, 2005, 22:57	#22
Homewrecker Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Markham, ON	That dude's hand on the fore grip does not look like it belongs to him. There's no way an arm can twist into that weird position unless he's doublejointed. Regardless, it looks hella weird. __________________ Poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.

December 29th, 2005, 14:13	#25
mouse Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Port Coquitlam	I am pretty sure its real. No magazine in the gun. I am pretty sure he is using that other scope as a bore sighter since it blocks the whole at the end, and might I add a ghetto bore sighter to! but inventive no the less Peace

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