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Old December 22nd, 2012, 14:19   #91
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Big Asian hands is a bit of a contradiction, isn't it?

Sell it to me, I need one for my 416.

It is Christmas bonus time, I thought I was going to just get a kit, but it was good year.
Oh brad looks like I'm coming over for Christmas!
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Old December 27th, 2012, 12:01   #92
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Ok folks as promised a more updated and detailed review of the FCC 416D complete rifle.

First off props to Chris at Double Tap Tactical for bringing this beauty to me, his customer service is by far one of the best and if there is any PTW related needs this is the go to guy.

The FCC 416D will be my third out of four FCC complete rifle since my first purchase from them earlier this year, starting with the complete Noveske NST carbine, the NST CQBR, and the upcoming custom Black and silver metallic Anodized race rifle. All of their product are top notch, their body is made from a CNC T6 Aluminum body, which give them the strength yet very light when compared to a similarly priced Prime body PTW. The 416D have a limited run of 1000 units with most of the preorder full kit being sold I have to wait for mine. The wait allows me to customize it a bit more, swapping parts and actually build it to my spec, I opted for a short CQB esque carbine build with an optional 11” inner and outer barrel for changes later on. I swapped the normal trigger to their limited silver race trigger and their enlarge silver bolt stop for the added bling, Along with other minor changes from the original kit such as a Knights trigger guard, Troy Ambi mag release and their Noveske Barricade stop to give it the Zombie basher look. I wanted to get the HK417 crane stock or their version of the Battle Axe CQB stock but it’s not available, so I settle on their LMT Crane. I have to admit this is one of my least favorite parts in this gun, the appearance have a cheap plastic look (Which I’ll remedy later on) and the lack of a proper HK sights and grips on their kit even though is not a deal killer, might be perceived as being cheap or incomplete for some buyers, on my full complete build I opt for the Magpul MOE grips as they fit quite nicely on my hands, I have their prototype 416/Tango down style grip but I find it a bit small in my hands.

Mag fitment in this gun is weird I use three different TW magazine, Systema OEM, FCC/Rampo Pmag and PTS Pmag. Both PTS and FCC mag will not click on securely without using a lot of force this Is due to the spec on the lower (which is an actual HK416 specs) how ever with a slight modification to the mag catch slot on the magazine itself will fix that issue. The Systema OEM mags will fit without issue. FCC will be issuing a new version of their P mag that will fit the 416D in the near future.

Performance of the gun is nothing short of being PERFECT it is definitely what a PTW should be out of the box, the short barrel gave the gun a distinctive snap/pop compared to the traditional snappy sound from a PTW, my only complaint was their hop up when fresh out of the box it shoots a bit low, the new rubber that they have need a few more mags to work it in (10 mags) and when compared to a older BNIB hop up rubber the one that came with the 416 complete rifle is indeed a bit more stiff but once the hop up rubber is worked in the shot is more consistent and deadly, producing a very tight 1” grouping at 20ft.
I had a chance to give it a full game on Friday night at TTAC3 and some range time with the Velocity Black M90 and their Blue M115 cylinder both times the gun was powered by airsoftstore Gen ace battery pack 11.1V 1200mah 20C each time they performed amazing, consistent shots with minimal drop in fps. On Velocity black cylinder it shoots out a healthy 325-323fps w/ .20 bastard bb compared to a Systema PTW black cylinder it shoots out 341-335fps w/ .20 bastard bb. It is a minor drop in fps when you use the velocity cylinder but it gives you a more shot to shot consistency with minimal leak when compared to the Systema cylinder. Another interesting fact is that the Velocity cylinder spring is much softer and slightly longer than the Systema springs.

So aside from a few minor complaints about the build kit and complete gun it is by far the best 416D replica I have layed my hands on, the build, finish and most importantly the performance blows any other replica the only thing that will make it even better if somehow FCC can implement a blowback system. If you are in the market for a PTW and a 416 this is it.

Pros
- Beautiful finish on the rifle
- Light weight compared to the other 416 build
- Amazing performance out of the box, what a PTW should be
- Deadly hop up and a short breaking in period (10 mags)

Cons
- Lack of proper grip on the build kit
- No HK iron sights
- Minor P mag fitment issue
- Limited 1000 unit run

Gun porn will be posted later on

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Old December 27th, 2012, 13:11   #93
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Great review Jay!
I second this being the most authentic 416 on the market. It felt just like the real thing, so they nailed it. Throw in PTW performance with that external H&K feel and you have quite the winning combination as far as I am concerned.

Appreciate you letting me check it out first hand at TAC13. Even more anxious now to unbox mine.... when it actually decides to show up.

Looking forward to those gun porn pics!
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Old December 27th, 2012, 16:09   #94
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a Systema PTW is like KD, where the noodles are plated in gold and the cheese sauce is actually a pool of hot naked women.
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Old December 27th, 2012, 18:24   #95
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Old December 27th, 2012, 18:43   #96
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Old December 27th, 2012, 20:08   #97
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Pics are coming gents, Spartan is that the Systema P mag or is it the PTS version?
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Old December 28th, 2012, 00:05   #98
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Here is the crappy Iphone edition I'll update some more Hi Res gun porn later
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Old December 29th, 2012, 22:16   #99
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Hey, ever see an FCC motor rip itself apart?

No?

Well now you have!



/Giggle. Back to HK you go!



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Old December 29th, 2012, 22:51   #100
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Hey, ever see an FCC motor rip itself apart?

No?

Well now you have!



/Giggle. Back to HK you go!
What the hell happen there Chris?? No worries They'll replace that for you They are good with their warranty claims
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Old December 29th, 2012, 23:14   #101
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PTW sounded "grindy"
Figured it was the pinion gear height that needed adjustment.

Height was dead on at 16.33mm, so no issues there.
Ran a few more tests on the system, decided to run a few full auto cycles. Pitch drastically changed and "Arrghagrg Ark Aeurgharark!" she was dead.

Had a good laugh when it decided to commit suicide though.


Higher res close up of the damage.
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Old December 29th, 2012, 23:37   #102
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Wow looks like its wound to tight, send it back they'll cover that under warranty
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Old December 29th, 2012, 23:39   #103
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Wow looks like its wound to tight, send it back they'll cover that under warranty
Ya, I'm sure it will be covered.
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Old December 29th, 2012, 23:44   #104
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Ya, I'm sure it will be covered.
yeah they are very good at backing up their product, one of my buddy got a bad motor they exchange it with no issue
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Old December 30th, 2012, 01:11   #105
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wow lol
Mine came with a brush spring that was cracked in half, glad they have great customer service
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