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Old June 8th, 2009, 18:19   #61
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You can always buy a G&G and upgrade the heck out of it too since parts are not restricted and easily purchased.
Would a tightbore barrel, better gearbox, and possibly a better spring make the G&G just as good if not better than the JG? could I buy the G&G, and buy certain select parts that are present in the JG model? (gearbox, barrel etc.)

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I'm not sure why you'd put G&G as potentially below JG like that. JG internals ain't nothing special, certainly no better than G&G.
And is this information false, or is this only true for the later models?
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Old June 8th, 2009, 19:08   #62
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Would a tightbore barrel, better gearbox, and possibly a better spring make the G&G just as good if not better than the JG? could I buy the G&G, and buy certain select parts that are present in the JG model? (gearbox, barrel etc.)
JG is not something to shoot for. It just has a bunch of higher performance parts out of the factory and therefore less of a hassle for those not inclined to upgrade their guns. For the G&G all you need is a new spring, bearing spring guide, and a tighterbore barrel. These are standard things that many serious airsofters will put into any gun if gaming outdoors.

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And is this information false, or is this only true for the later models?

This is model specific and only if that model has recieved a late 2008 refresh of the design (like the JG HK416) I was talking about the S-System because that is the one that you mentioned. The latest version has full metal reciever, m120 spring, bearing spring guide, and even has a mosfet chip installed from the factory. That said, there are many more things inside a gearbox and even the shell itself that people do upgrade.

Like I said before, just read the reviews yourself. Probably none or very few of us actually have these guns you are asking about. You need to do your own research.


Listen to The Saint and just game the gun when you buy it and see if you are happy with it. Upgrades can be a hassle when you are just starting out.
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Old June 8th, 2009, 19:22   #63
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This thread is getting painful.
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Old June 8th, 2009, 19:28   #64
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Ok, thanks. And I am researching myself, and this is on the noob section, so I really don't see that I am doing anything wrong. And technically, asking this is me doing research. And thank youf or being helpful.

http://buyairsoft.ca/catalog/product...roducts_id=425

JG M4A1 for $300, halfbreed. I was hoping for a s-system, but could rails be put on this gun to make it an s-system, or would it just be more with my while to get a G&G M4 which is already to my liking.

I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS :P Sorry.

G&G M16 RIS VS. G&G M4 CQB.
How much would the M16 out range the M4 by OTB?
Would the M4 be able to be upgraded to perform like the M16, and could the M16 be upgraded to perform like an M4?
I have decided on G&G. Good OTB, easy to get.

These will probably be the last questions regarding the purchase of my gun on this thread. Thank you for your patience and answers.
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Old June 8th, 2009, 19:36   #65
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Ok, thanks. And I am researching myself, and this is on the noob section, so I really don't see that I am doing anything wrong. And technically, asking this is me doing research. And thank youf or being helpful.

http://buyairsoft.ca/catalog/product...roducts_id=425

JG M4A1 for $300, halfbreed. I was hoping for a s-system, but could rails be put on this gun to make it an s-system, or would it just be more with my while to get a G&G M4 which is already to my liking.
Don't buy that, it has the old JG crappy internals. Not worth it. But any TM compatible design means in theory you can use any airsoft accessories or rails you buy separately later.

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I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS :P Sorry.

G&G M16 RIS VS. G&G M4 CQB.
How much would the M16 out range the M4 by OTB?
Would the M4 be able to be upgraded to perform like the M16, and could the M16 be upgraded to perform like an M4?
I have decided on G&G. Good OTB, easy to get.

These will probably be the last questions regarding the purchase of my gun on this thread. Thank you for your patience and answers.
The M16 would not outrange the M4 by much (or even anything at all). Maybe a few feet. There is tangibly no difference aside from comestic appearance. Both have the same gearbox, both have the same hop-up. The slightly longer M16 barrel might give you a slight FPS/accuracy boost and more stable flight but that translates to nothing more than a few feet. Again, any TM compatible design means you can swap and upgrade everything to your hearts content and it will work in theory.
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Old June 8th, 2009, 19:38   #66
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If you'd go back and actually re-read the previous 4 pages, those question have already been answered.

We already stated that an M16 will be slightly more accurate at range than an M4. We can't tell you by how much, because it depends on a lot of different factors (hop-up, BB weight and quality, etc.).

And M16 can be converted to an M4 and vice-versa, but I wouldn't recommend it.

The front foregrips on M4's and M16s are fairly modular and you can swap them out with different ones.
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Old June 8th, 2009, 19:45   #67
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OK, ok, I know that these questions are very repetitive, but I really just want to know what I am getting for my money. (Can you really blame me?)
It is just that the G&G M16 RIS is slightly more expensive than the G&G M4, and I want to know if I am getting anything more with the M16 other than extra bulkiness and an ugly ass stock.
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Old June 8th, 2009, 20:29   #68
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OK, ok, I know that these questions are very repetitive, but I really just want to know what I am getting for my money. (Can you really blame me?)
It is just that the G&G M16 RIS is slightly more expensive than the G&G M4, and I want to know if I am getting anything more with the M16 other than extra bulkiness and an ugly ass stock.
...then go to an airsoft game and check out some guns before you buy.
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